Jammin on the brakes with an auto.

by **badjura** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:32 pm

I hope this hasn't been addressed before, but I am going to throw it out there anyway. Its related to the brakes on my Solara that hasn't seen its first oil change yet. When i stop @ a light, if I don't have my foot firmly planted on the brakes - and i mean firmly pressed, the car seems to want to inch itself forward. The other day I looked in my rear view mirror thinking somebody had bumped into me..LOL :roll:

Has anybody else out there experienced this and or is this normal for the Solara with an auto? I have never experienced this in any other car I have driven. Comments?

by **Guest** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:59 pm

check your brakes.

by **hari-bhari** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:15 pm

your brake fluid might be low, or possibly the line linking the pedal to the hydraulics is too lose, and needs to be shortened/tightened

by **Mole** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:29 pm

is your AC on??

when the compressor kicks in it needs to be regulated by the ecu, by making the engine rev a little higher thus having that little nudge.

by **JoeB** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:05 am

Never had that problem in my 99 auto. Doesn't sound good or normal. -JoeB

by **hari-bhari** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 10:00 am

I actualy have the same problem in my 95 avalon, the car won't stay stopped unless my foot is pushing the pedal about 80 percent of fully down. its annoying because the solara isnt like that. i dont know what causes this problem, but i just sort of got used to it. im thinking its just a mechanical linkage problem, but have ur brakes checked nonetheless. i did slam on the brakes once in an emergency (all the way down), and they did perform as they should, with the ABS kicking in and all, so I dont think the long threshold affects overall performance, just the feeling. let me know if you find somethin out.

by **badjura** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:40 pm

Thanks for your thoughts guys- no, the AC is not on..I will have them check the brakes when I take it in for a service. Otherwise they seem to grab great. Will post if they come up with something.

by **impactX** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 5:33 pm

Probably because of crappy OEM pads.

I got the same problem because Toyota cheaped out on the pads and both front pads were glazed. That was great!

by **badjura** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 12:28 pm

UPDATE: Had a chat with the service guys @ Toyota and this is what they told me:

When you have the defrost on the air con will kick in (even though you aren't aware of it {no air con lite} - well i wasn't anyway) and will do what TRDMole177 thought:

"when the compressor kicks in it needs to be regulated by the ecu, by making the engine rev a little higher thus having that little nudge"
Nice one

Apprarantly this is a common complaint or inquiry. I was also told by another guy @ the shop that instead of using asbestos they are using some organic material on the brakes?! Does this sound right?

In any case, I was told not to sweat it and that there was no problem.

by **JoeB** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:58 am

So maybe this is all interpretation of what you define as your foot "firmly" planted on the brakes. The first 4 years of my car's life were spent in Atlanta and I used my AC all the time. I never had a problem with my car inching forward at a stop where I felt I had to stand on the brakes. I am 6'4" and weigh 215 lbs though. Maybe I just naturally apply more pressure... I also think it is normal for the dealer to try to convince you that there is nothing wrong with a car when it is under warranty. Go ask them the same question when the warranty has expired... -JoeB

by **Guest** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:50 am

badjura wrote:When you have the defrost on the air con will kick in (even though you aren't aware of it {no air con lite} - well i wasn't anyway)

what?? is that guy smoking cr*ck!! can somebody please confirm/deny this please?

by **hari-bhari** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 9:16 am

confirmed...

by **Guest** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 9:26 am

Anonymous wrote:
badjura wrote:When you have the defrost on the air con will kick in (even though you aren't aware of it {no air con lite} - well i wasn't anyway)

what?? is that guy smoking cr*ck!! can somebody please confirm/deny this please?

I think they meant the defog position on the ventilation control - all the way clock-wise wher eit blows under the windshield. This is mentioned in the owners manual by the way.

On the other hand, if the rear de-fogger is on, I'm not sure if the AC is on. I don;t think it is. Either way, if your fan is OFF then it does not matter if the AC is on or not (it won't work without the fan).

But car trying to go forward on a stop when in "D" too much is bad for the tranny and causes the engine to work more. I'd check the RPMs - if they are around 600 or so I think there is no issue. If they are higher, then there is some other problem.

It is normal for autos to try to move forward when in "D", but it is not normal to have to apply 80% force on the brake to stop them. I'd say just a light tap should be enough once the car has warmed-up (when it is cold, the RPMs are up to 2K so then, naturally, you need to push the brake more though)

Website · by **DavPak** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 11:50 am

JoeB wrote:I also think it is normal for the dealer to try to convince you that there is nothing wrong with a car when it is under warranty. Go ask them the same question when the warranty has expired... -JoeB

why would any dealer in their right mind do that??
when a dealer does warranty work, Toyota (corporate) pays them to do it. denying warranty work is like not picking up a dollar you found on the street.......IT MAKES NO SENSE! i'm sure that if the dealer in question could find something wrong with the car, they'd fix it, under warranty.

by **hari-bhari** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:24 pm

the dealers here told me they get paid LESS for warranty work. as a result, they refuse to do any warranty work on the weekends as well because its of less benefit to them

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