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Postby Nutty101 » Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:08 pm

Oh yeah, i do have a computer linked up to the car 24/7 :) Can even roll the windows down from a phone. Whole system takes up a huge chunk of the trunk. Amps and computers. Whee
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Postby ThatVietGuy » Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:34 pm

Wow, I want to be able to do that :P

Good luck with figuring out the problems
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Postby SolaraBlue » Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:50 pm

i think we all forget that were driving family cars not porsches. the solara is sporty, quick and somewhat agile, which makes it easier to believe were driving a super car, when were not. either way, sorry to hear about this, toyota engines especially can be a expensive to fix/replace. what are you going to do now?
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Postby Nyyankees3511 » Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:57 pm

Good Luck, i suggest you dont get a 3.0cl because their transmissions have tons of problems.
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Postby Turbosolara » Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:34 pm

but isn't someone here took his car to autocross all the time? I would believe it is some hardware failure in your case.
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Postby Grazi07 » Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:22 pm

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He's talking about mileage, not money.

Putting 45 k into a 10 grand car with the options you'd then have to work with would be my route of choice on a car over an sti +15k anyway. Think about it, the motor swap possibilities, you could make it into a Supra, with the STI you're pretty much stuck with that engine, which granted is a great engine, but no matter what you're still stuck with 4 cylinders that are already turbod so there's only so much room for upgrade.

Basicly, even tho it doesn't matter with this topic, I'd take a solara +45k over an sti+15k ANY day without blinking.

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Sorry to go off topic, but I couldn't disagree with you more!! The 2.5 Boxer is a very very solid motor, and may be just as tuneable as a 2JZ. "Already being turboed" doesn't mean you can't swap in a bigger turbo or larger intercooler, and there's nothing comperable to Subaru's AWD and 6th gear....Pulling an STi hard through 6th gear is something everyone should be able to experience!!!! Try one out, you may change your mind.

Nutty, I really think you have the wrong vehicle!! Sounds like you should be driving a rotary if you keep it that high.
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Postby drock03 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:45 am

Nyyankees3511 wrote:Good Luck, i suggest you dont get a 3.0cl because their transmissions have tons of problems.


I agree, these rides are junk! Even the newer generation CL and CL Type S have serous automatic tranny problems. So bad that the tranny fluid is actually boiling! Acura extended their warranty till 100K but whether or not your paying for it...its still more time wasted at the dealership. To my knowledge Acura still has not solved the problem....just keep using band aids. I personally know a few people on their 3 and 4 trannies!!!! In 03 the CL had a 6spd standard and I have not heard any issues with this, however your going to pay out the arse for a nice one! I'll probably pick one up next year when depreciation starts to kick in
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Re: ok our motors suck donkey!

Postby drock03 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:57 am

Nutty101 wrote:
PhreakdOut wrote:
Nutty101 wrote:This is my second motor in less than 6 months. How in the hell can they go so damn easy. POS car.


Didn't you do a swap some time ago. (Used a Gen2 Avalon engine?)

I'm curious what failed. Perhaps you are leaning out with your current ECU setup?

I'm going to guess that the failed engine is the symptom of a problem. You have yet to figure out the source.


I have a feeling i know what is causing it but still driving me insain. my last motor went 150K before it died this one has around 5K from me on it. 40K before me.

Keep thinking it over and i have a feeling it may be oil starved in turns. It is the only thing i can think of at the moment. I would imagine that hard accel while turning at 100-130 has to have something to do with it. Sounds like a bearing again on this motor. The bottom end is what is gone again. Arrrg, love my car to death (Literally). The thing is amazing on the road for it's ability to handle but the powerplant is just crap really. *pout* So much work into this car along with money. I almost have 45K into this stupid car and i have yet to drive another car that i really love like this one. But i cannot afford to keep replacing motors every year let alone two a year..


Did you say turning at 100-130? In a Solara? YEAH RIGHT! You need to dump that ride and buy a CBR1000! Something built for the twisties. These cars are NOT built for that kind of abuse. We're talking about a 2 door camry with a few sporty options and 200 stock horses. Dump money into a G35 coupe or a porsche boxster. At least stock they have a suspension and tires to handle high speed turns (although I'm not sure they would hang at 130 mph in a turn like your solara can!) Your problem is your driving style not your motor....
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Re: ok our motors suck donkey!

Postby quikz » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:52 pm

[Did you say turning at 100-130? In a Solara? YEAH RIGHT! You need to dump that ride and buy a CBR1000! Something built for the twisties. These cars are NOT built for that kind of abuse. We're talking about a 2 door camry with a few sporty options and 200 stock horses. Dump money into a G35 coupe or a porsche boxster. At least stock they have a suspension and tires to handle high speed turns (although I'm not sure they would hang at 130 mph in a turn like your solara can!) Your problem is your driving style not your motor....[/quote]

its better trying a Ninja ZX-10 at that speed for those turns. anyways putting all the money in a solara i think aint worth it because in the end you're still driving a solara. the STi are good cars to modify ive been in one and it doesn't come even close to a Solara. Just my thoughts.
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Postby CASTRO » Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:50 pm

i take my car out to the track all the time (6-8 times a year) and it hasnt failed on me yet. Just recently supercharged @ 145,000 miles and currently passing 152,000 miles.
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Postby Nutty101 » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:57 pm

CASTRO wrote:i take my car out to the track all the time (6-8 times a year) and it hasnt failed on me yet. Just recently supercharged @ 145,000 miles and currently passing 152,000 miles.


yeah, but track is different. Your not holding a hard turn for that long. Me i am taking a turn where everything in the car is going to one side and it can last for 30 seconds to a minute depending on where i am doing it. Going to replace the bearings on the motor and baby it for a bit. Just gotta figure this part out.

As for the getting a bike, no way i would be dead. If there is one thing about the solara is that it really can hold up to a ton of abuse and it's heavy. On a track that hurts it some. At long drawn out turns at really high speeds, it can do wonders. Couldn't take the s2000 on a track but on the highway there is no contest over 100mph. Even on crappy mxv4e+ tires I can go nuts. Sad part is that i will no longer be racing the s2000 on the highway. Them days are done after he lost it around 120. slid in reverse to a wall spun around and then went to another and then spun out in the middle of the highway. Even after me and his brother in law had a chat about all the crap. Oh well.


http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=39.78440 ... 010064&t=k
Thats where he spun out, to the west from the street with the one round onramp to the exit sign at the next road.


http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=39.77938 ... 010064&t=k
The exit on the bottom that goes right across the N/S highway. I have taken that at around 128 without any sliding (Thank god). The one that goes from eastbound to north bound I did around 110 thru it. So that may give an idea about how were thinking i am oil starving the motor. That speed at that degree of turn for that amount of time there is no oil to be picked up. Gotta get some system to keep the oil in the pan for the motor or install some oilbox on top of the motor.
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Postby MCOjerry » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:08 pm

Nutty, for all of our sakes, please don't drive like that on public roads. If you want to risk your lfe, that's one thing, but risking the lives of others...

You DO have to SHARE the road. Please have some consideration for the rest of the people who live near you.
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Postby DaveMush » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:57 am

If you happen to still have either of the dead engines... let me know. i'm looking for a rebuildable block for an engine build-up.

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Postby AznDragonV » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:09 am

Nutty101 wrote:
CASTRO wrote:i take my car out to the track all the time (6-8 times a year) and it hasnt failed on me yet. Just recently supercharged @ 145,000 miles and currently passing 152,000 miles.


yeah, but track is different. Your not holding a hard turn for that long. Me i am taking a turn where everything in the car is going to one side and it can last for 30 seconds to a minute depending on where i am doing it. Going to replace the bearings on the motor and baby it for a bit. Just gotta figure this part out.

As for the getting a bike, no way i would be dead. If there is one thing about the solara is that it really can hold up to a ton of abuse and it's heavy. On a track that hurts it some. At long drawn out turns at really high speeds, it can do wonders. Couldn't take the s2000 on a track but on
the highway there is no contest over 100mph. Even on crappy mxv4e+ tires I can go nuts. Sad part is that i will no longer be racing the s2000 on the highway. Them days are done after he lost it around 120. slid in reverse to a wall spun around and then went to another and then spun out in the middle of the highway. Even after me and his brother in law had a chat about all the crap. Oh well.


http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=39.78440 ... 010064&t=k
Thats where he spun out, to the west from the street with the one round onramp to the exit sign at the next road.


http://maps.google.com/?t=k&ll=39.77938 ... 010064&t=k
The exit on the bottom that goes right across the N/S highway. I have taken that at around 128 without any sliding (Thank god). The one that goes from eastbound to north bound I did around 110 thru it. So that may give an idea about how were thinking i am oil starving the motor. That speed at that degree of turn for that amount of time there is no oil to be picked up. Gotta get some system to keep the oil in the pan for the motor or install some oilbox on top of the motor.


WHAT! the s2000 is wrecked????? is everyone ok?
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Postby Monkeyman » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:43 pm

You can check for oil starvation by removing the oil pan, and taking one of the bottom caps off of one of your connecting rods. If the bottom cap shows excessive wear then you are experiencing oil starvation. If you do this MAKE SURE you keep your connecting rod from hitting the cylinder or anything else for that matter. I would wrap a clean lint free rag around the bottom of the rod and partway into the cylinder. This will keep it from scratching anything, and will help to keep the rod from moving.
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