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Accord vs Solara

Postby XxMahBlueSixX » Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:34 pm

Well I'm just continuing a debate on Hatred of VTEC and Honda's by Toyota enthusiasts and since the topic got locked I'll continue it here. It was left off of how a properly tuned Solara can beat the new Six speed V6 accord. Well yes if it is tuned right it can more than likely beat an Accord... but stock to stock no way... or even better, a tuned Solara against a tuned Accord...hmmm... I wonder who's going to win.
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Postby Yanks0114 » Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:37 pm

XxMahBlueSixX wrote:Well I'm just continuing a debate on Hatred of VTEC and Honda's by Toyota enthusiasts and since the topic got locked I'll continue it here. It was left off of how a properly tuned Solara can beat the new Six speed V6 accord. Well yes if it is tuned right it can more than likely beat an Accord... but stock to stock no way... or even better, a tuned Solara against a tuned Accord...hmmm... I wonder who's going to win.


Lets make this fair and wait till the 2004 solara with the 3.3L 3MZ-FE engine :wink: Of course stock vs stock the new v6 honda would win, but who cares, thats not even a fair comparison. Add a S/C and boom the 5spd solara will beat the accord
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Postby Jai_Jai_Binks » Mon Jan 13, 2003 9:46 am

Solara (in my opinion) are for the more person who want to get semi-luxury cars. Accords are for those seeking a nice safe two door coupe (I don't consider them luxury...but more practical). (thing is totally fliped up in UK...Only oldies drive Honda's there, and young folk drive toyota's...so my last comment was for states specific).

HP only sells cars, TQ is what win's at stop lights, Honda's in general have a low tq when compared to hp! Toyota's in general have a somewhat even distribution between hp and tq! so if your wondering which is better...Its hard to say...depending on what you consider better...better hp numbers, better tq numbers, better resale value's, better reliability, better aftermarked add-on's, or better leather seats?? Each car is unique but have a similar target market! Not to mention the new accord looks soo :o (YUCK). i'd take then last gen accord coupe, the new one looks too much like a civic up front...but then again thats honda's philosophy..that all those civic owners have seasoned since their last purchase (civic)..and want something bigger (hence a more powerful accord!!).
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Re: Accord vs Solara

Postby Flipside909 » Mon Jan 13, 2003 1:05 pm

XxMahBlueSixX wrote:Well I'm just continuing a debate on Hatred of VTEC and Honda's by Toyota enthusiasts and since the topic got locked I'll continue it here. It was left off of how a properly tuned Solara can beat the new Six speed V6 accord. Well yes if it is tuned right it can more than likely beat an Accord... but stock to stock no way... or even better, a tuned Solara against a tuned Accord...hmmm... I wonder who's going to win.


It's easy to speculate anything on results that arent even proven. i.e modded new Accord V6 6spd. Yes there's alot of potential, but why even try to hype it up if it doesn't even exist yet? Yes theres gonna be a higher output Solara in the future, but only time will tell what it will be actually capable of. If Toyota and Honda had the same exact times they released new generation body styles and engines...i can guarantee you the Honda's auto tranny would break down before the Toyotas. That's the case with MANY Accord V6, Odyssey, TL's, MDX and everything that shares that tranny. Honda makes great cars no doubt, but they're known for their 4cyl engines and high output motorcycles...not much so with V6's or SUV's for that matter. ;)
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Postby Hsakuragi » Tue Jan 14, 2003 1:07 am

First of all to all the viewers dat viewd the previous topic is locked now.. vvti v6? :2gunfire: VTEC that really doesn't mean hate on Hondas, it's just for those who owns a Honda with a painted body kit and a lousy muffler and think they can fly in the sky with a vtec engine. I have to admit Honda have good power on the engine since I do maintence on the accords a lot for my parents, but I really don't want to race on the road, espically on Hwy 80 and throughout bay area ("donuts & coffee" everywhere), but it's just these people gave u a showoff looking face, I mean in reality, if there is a person that gave u a ugly look, you'll feel you want to beat the hell out of that person right... People just don't know how to gain respect from others....sigh....PEACE@.... that's why you need the HP to shove those air into the mouth of those people who don't give a shxx to other.
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Postby NaptownSolara » Tue Jan 14, 2003 6:42 am

Did you know the average age of a civic driver in Italy is in the 40's? They're totally old-person cars over there. I'm sure it's similar with the rest of Europe.
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Postby NASTY » Tue Jan 14, 2003 6:44 am

NaptownSolara wrote:Did you know the average age of a civic driver in Italy is in the 40's? They're totally old-person cars over there. I'm sure it's similar with the rest of Europe.


i was in frankfurt for a few hours over the christmas break (waiting to transfer flights) and they do NOT like japanese cars over there! i saw two (one civic, once crazy toyota they don't sell here). 99% of the cars there are european.
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Postby Jai_Jai_Binks » Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:10 am

NaptownSolara wrote:Did you know the average age of a civic driver in Italy is in the 40's? They're totally old-person cars over there. I'm sure it's similar with the rest of Europe.


Yeah...you are correct! I remember watching 'Top Gear' (on BBC TV) where Jeremy Clarkson (host) mentioned on one of their shows how young American love Honda's...and how Honda is trying to build similar reputation in UK and across Europe, where its brand is predominantly acquired by old foggies!
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Postby XxMahBlueSixX » Tue Jan 14, 2003 1:39 pm

Showing the Honda's are not to popular is Germany and Europe is a given fact...they grew up with some of the best cars, BMW's, Mercs, Peugeot's and so on. No way can a Honda step up, only in some rare and I do mean VERY rare instances, do they. It's almost saying that Fords or Chevy's aren't bought to often in Japan... well thats a given. No one there buys them. Over there they are very traditional. Japan has the best of the "imports"...the super cars of the "import" scene. Honda's are meant to be underdogs... like most imports in America.
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Postby j0hn » Tue Jan 14, 2003 3:02 pm

[/quote]Japan has the best of the "imports"...the super cars of the "import" scene

in regards to that statement.... whats is an import? is not an import a car whose origin is not of this country? Then if that is the case, Germany has the best of the "imports". True, most individuals cannot afford such cars, but if money is not an issue, German imports are the best bar-none. Two perfect examples are the Audi S4 and BMW M3, both of these cars would give any japanese car a run for its money both at the strip and the track. I still love my toyota with a passion, but german cars have it better.

Also, yes, the new Accord V6 6speed would definitely beat a solara v6 5spd, however, that comparison is unfair. If you were to S/C a solara V6 5 spd to at least make the horspower figures similar. I am confident that the solara would win against the Accord 6spd 9.99 times out of 10

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Postby NaptownSolara » Wed Jan 15, 2003 5:57 am

John is right. Europe, and Germany in particular, produce the most outstanding cars in every category.

Luxury = Bentley, Rolls Royce, Mercedes
Performance = Porsche, BMW, Lamborghini, Ferrari
Economy = Fiat, Opel, Peugeut

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