Best amp for type R's

[stainless]

I hate my amp right now. I want to wire my 2 12' type r's at 2 ohms at about 500 RMS each. Price is not an issue, I'm willing to spend in the $400 range if need be. What is the best quality amp I can get? I want it to be loud and hit low. Thanks

[Solarafreek]

I know you said price is not an issue, but your not going to find a good amp at the $400 range...g/l

[hskrsolara]

look for some used crossfire, kenwood or MTX amps on ebay... I have used all 3 brands and had excellent luck!

[stainless]

I'm having a hard time finding an amp for more than 400 for the amount of power I need lol ..... just forget I said 400 tho and tell me what you think some of the best are

[theprodigy79]

He can get a damned good amp for $400 if he's willing to go used on eBay... Old skool Rockford Fosgate (pre-1997), MTX (pre-2004), Soundstream (pre-2001), Phoenix Gold (various series), PPI will do the trick damned well...

I assume you're running the 1222Ds if you plan on running both subs in a 2 Ohm load... I, personally, have a pair of the 1242Ds running parallel/parallel in a 1 Ohm load on my Soundstream Class A 10.2, each receiving somewhere between 500-600 Watts RMS @ 12V and they sound killer...

If you aren't willing to go used, you're pretty limited with only $400 though... so you may want to consider your options very carefully...

[theprodigy79]

And regarding your comment about having a hard time finding an amp that does what you need it to do over $400... I've explained this to you before...

Cheap amps generally use their PEAK rated power at 14.4V to lure misinformed consumers to them... Better amplifiers advertise their RMS rating, sometimes even at 12V instead of 14.4V...

The fact of the matter is, many of these amps with lower power ratings can destroy the cheaper amps claiming kilowatts... A good amp with an RMS rating of 200W may have a peak output of over a kilowatt... That doesn't mean it's a sustainable power, or that you will benefit from it... But use that as a reference when you're looking at peak power claims (they mean jack sh!t).

There is also generally a very large price jump for those amps which can truely handle large RMS power flows... My Class A 10.2 was around $1,100 back in 1998 if that says anything... So with the way you're speaking, I strongly advise you to go used.

You may also want to consider a multi-amp application with one amp on each sub...

-James

[stainless]

used is fine, i'll look into some of those prodigy thanks

and you just made me realize that I have a 1241D and a 1242D, that cant be good? I cant figure out what it means by their website....

[theprodigy79]

That poses at least one problem, potentially two...

The 1242D is the newer, replacement model of the 1241D... In some cases companies simply rebrand their new subs and leave the rest the same... In this case, however, Alpine COMPLETELY redesigned the subs, and the 1241D is actually more comparable to the newer Type S series than Type R series... So, while both subs are DVC 4Ohm subs and will place a similar load onto the amplifier (perhaps not the exact same), they are mismatched and will sound entirely different. Also, the power handling of the subs are different as well.

The other issue is that, as stated above, those are DVC 4Ohm subs, meaning they can each be wired in 2Ohms or 8Ohms, or together be wired in 1Ohm or 4Ohms... I can't remember what amplifier you had right off the top of my head (Power Acoustik, SPL or something?) but if you have your subs connected in a 4Ohm load to it you are not seeing anywhere near it's capability... Although I also can't remember if your particular amp is 1Ohm stable, so this may be a potential issue as well...

What amp do you have again?

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[blaK]

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[theprodigy79]

^Well worth it.

[stainless]

I have the profile AP2000 right now and the pro's that I had it installed with said it couldnt be wired as 2ohm so they put it at 4....

So should I buy cam's kicker amp? is that going to work with everything?

Thanks guys I couldnt do this without you

[theprodigy79]

That's right, Profile...

Yes, the Kicker amp is definitely a solid one, and $300 is reasonable for it. It should definitely do what you need it to do for you.

[stainless]

but will having the two different subs mess me up? what does that mean wiring wise?

[theprodigy79]

Sorry I missed your last post...

Having those two different subs should not mess anything up, it just won't sound as good and you may need to lower gains accordingly (to match the higher powered SWR-1242D to the older SWR-1241Ds capabilities).

Wiring wise, the subs are both dual 4Ohms, so wire them as you would if they were the same model. If you do go for Milt's Kicker amp or another 1Ohm stable amp you will want to run the voice coils in parallel (+ to +, - to -), then the subs in parallel to the amp to get the best results...

As stated above, you will also need to turn down the gain for at least the 1241D on an amp such as that due to its lower power handling, but preferably BOTH SUBS to somewhat match the sound output... You may want to highly consider selling your 1241D and getting hold of another 1242D; it's a night and day difference, and in your current setup the 1241D is a very limiting factor...