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Apexi Exhaust problem

Apexi Exhaust problem

Postby ek64 » Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:53 pm

Has anyone experienced a problem with the muffler from APEXi world sport cat back? All of sudden it got about 2-3x louder and it feels as if the performance has changed.
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Postby CASTRO » Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:37 am

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louder? Ive seen that happen before, but it was due to a blown exhaust gasket or loose bolts/nuts.
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Postby Mole » Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:40 am

there can be a hole in it.

or it could of been broken in.

how much louder are we talking about ?

apex is quiet to begin with so 2-3x louder cant be that loud.
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Postby jeffrey_o » Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:17 am

Loud can be several things, is the sound coming from behind the car or under the car? It could be that it's loose and leaking where it bolts up to the cat. Or it could be that the cat itself is broken and allowing more exhaust through, thus making the rear louder. Or it could be several other things. Give a little more info please :D.
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Postby Turbosolara » Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:18 am

check for exhuat leaks and loosen bolts.
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Postby Akfahad » Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:26 am

CASTRO wrote:^
louder? Ive seen that happen before, but it was due to a blown exhaust gasket or loose bolts/nuts.


I would guess probably a loose bolt. My buddy had that happen to his WRX. The exhaust sound was coming from his engine bay and not from the tip, plus he wasn't boosting anymore. All he did was tighten some of the bolts again and problem fixed.
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Postby PhreakdOut » Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:11 am

Typically, exhaust does not get louder unless:

1) There is a major hole, leak or crack somewhere. You should be able to find it by looking for carbon leakage. (Traces of carbon build up around a joint.)

2) Catalytic converter substrate has broken up and blown out the exhaust. If your exhaust is pretty straight through (in other words: the exhaust flow does not reverse direction inside the muffler) then the chunks of substrate would just blow out the tailpipe. Tap on the converter (carefully) to see if you get a hollow sound or a solid thud. If hollow, disconnect the outlet end and shine a flashlight inside to see if the substrate is there. Contrary to belief, the substrate naturally reduces exhaust noise when it goes through the honeycomb.

3) Internal failure in the muffler. Odds are that Apexi does not use conventional muffler tuning. (Such as expansion chambers or hemholtz tuners.) They are most likely a single perforated tube from inlet to outlet with a glass fiber injected inside to fill the body of the muffler. Sometimes, if the muffler manufacturer goes cheap, they will not wrap the perf tube with stainless wool or they will use larger holes to reduce tooling costs instead of many small holes. (Diameter of 3mm or less) The issue is that glass wool (even in continous strand) will chaff against the perforations and break the fibers. Broken fibers will blow out the holes and reduce effectiveness of a muffler. (In one case, I've see a four foot strand trailing out the tailpipe of a car going down the interstate. )

Again, tap on the muffler to see if it sounds hollow. If properly filled to a density of 120 Kg/m3 to 200 Kg/m3, it should not have a ringing sound.

When this occurs, the only fix is replacement. Check with Apexi to see what the warranty period covers if you suspect it has lost its packing.


PM me if you still have any issues and I'd be glad to help.
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Postby DatSRBoi » Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:22 am

Or maybe the weathers getting cooler so your cars getting more power.... More power means louder car idleing..
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Postby ek64 » Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:55 pm

Thanks for all the info...I did check all the bolts connecting and throughout my cat back system and they were all tight...pretty hard since the thing is lowered on coilovers...

I will check cat and muffler for sounds...
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Re: Apexi Exhaust problem

Postby StockSolara » Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:51 pm

ek64 wrote:Has anyone experienced a problem with the muffler from APEXi world sport cat back? All of sudden it got about 2-3x louder and it feels as if the performance has changed.

You know what this happen to me with my GReddy EVO 2. . . For a long I was so used to hearing how it sounds. . . than after a long time I started listening to it again. . . The exhaust sounds louder. . . I thought it was because I had a leak or something but there is nothing wrong. . . It was only the exhaust being broken in. . . The materials in the mufflers do deteriate after awhile in which it will lead to a louder exhaust tone. . . If there is no leak than your exhaust is just doing what most broken in exhausts do. . . hope that helps :D
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Postby ek64 » Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:53 pm

Thanks guys...it sounds like my muffler gave out...from the sound of it, it sounds like a steel drum...I think the glass packs collapsed or were blown out the muffler...

I am looking to replace the muffler...I think Apexi has a universal muffler to replace the one on the cat back system.
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