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Postby BradOwens » Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:30 pm

alright wat i would like to know is it possible to drill and slot stock brake rotors. how much would it cost to get done professionaly? also.. i know powder coating is best but how would it look to paint brake rotors using paint? thnks
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Postby DaTwUnKrAziEpInOy » Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:59 pm

??????????? :o From what I've heard about drilling / slotting stock rotors....That's dangerous..... because pretty much you're taking out material from a rotor that was designed not to be drilled or slotted. Could result in warping, cracking. I dunno bout powder coating.... because you're only going to powder coat the place where the wheel and lug bolts go through.
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Postby ~Spadwaller~ » Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:26 pm

I got Brembo pads and Brembo slotted rotors(or drilled) for 220 shipped no tax. Im waiting for the SS brake lines for 120 shipped no tax as well. PM me if you want more info.
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Postby Mole » Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:33 pm

just fork over the $$$ and do it correctly.

don't do any half ass'd rotor job. they're not that expensive anyway.
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Postby bassthrive » Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:22 am

get drilled rotors for the look because they dont offer any stopping benefits over blanks. plus they cannot be turned and risk a greater chance of warping/cracking.
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Postby Mandarinsolara » Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:31 am

you sure they dont offer any benefits?

thats weird... maybe they should take them off all of the scca racecars and formula one cars.
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Postby BradOwens » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:51 am

bassthrive wrote:get drilled rotors for the look because they dont offer any stopping benefits over blanks. plus they cannot be turned and risk a greater chance of warping/cracking.


r u sure?? ive heard the increased size dosent help much but drilling and slotting does? hmm weird
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Postby Grazi07 » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:20 pm

I always thought the cross drilled/slotted rotors were for cooling, not necessarily stopping. Slowing down quickly isn't part of many race routines. I would think that since there's less area for the pads to grab, it'd take longer to stop.
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Postby bassthrive » Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:18 pm

Mandarinsolara wrote:you sure they dont offer any benefits?

thats weird... maybe they should take them off all of the scca racecars and formula one cars.


BradOwens wrote:r u sure?? ive heard the increased size dosent help much but drilling and slotting does? hmm weird



a bigger rotor will make improvements, but removing mass from a stock sized rotor will not make it better at stopping, which is basically the changing of kinetic energy (forward momentum) into heat. a more massive rotor is more efficient heat sink.

drilled rotors are more prone to cracking and stress fractures due to the differences between cooling rates at the hole's edge and the solid part of the disc. and that is even the case with forged, chamfered c/d rotors, now imagine swiss cheesing your current oem rotors....

im too lazy to dig up all the sources of this info, it was discussed ad nauseum months ago. but here is a little discalimer about a reputable brand of oem size cross drilled rotors (brembo) from tirerack.

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.j ... lled+Rotor

IMPORTANT REMINDER: Slotted, drilled or dimpled rotors offered as OEM replacements should not be considered appropriate for high-speed track use.

While grooved, drilled and slotted rotors offer an enhanced appearance and add some resistance to the boundary layer of gasses that can build up between the pad and rotor, they are not designed to withstand the extreme temperatures that are produced on the racetrack. If they are used on the track, it is very important that the rotors be carefully inspected and should not be driven on if even minor signs of deterioration are seen. Note, too, that if these products are used on the track they are not warrantable



p.s. I have no idea why they even mention the boundary gases considering brake pads havent outgassed since the 1950's.
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Postby BradOwens » Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:55 pm

bassthrive wrote:
Mandarinsolara wrote:you sure they dont offer any benefits?

thats weird... maybe they should take them off all of the scca racecars and formula one cars.


BradOwens wrote:r u sure?? ive heard the increased size dosent help much but drilling and slotting does? hmm weird



a bigger rotor will make improvements, but removing mass from a stock sized rotor will not make it better at stopping, which is basically the changing of kinetic energy (forward momentum) into heat. a more massive rotor is more efficient heat sink.

drilled rotors are more prone to cracking and stress fractures due to the differences between cooling rates at the hole's edge and the solid part of the disc. and that is even the case with forged, chamfered c/d rotors, now imagine swiss cheesing your current oem rotors....

im too lazy to dig up all the sources of this info, it was discussed ad nauseum months ago. but here is a little discalimer about a reputable brand of oem size cross drilled rotors (brembo) from tirerack.

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.j ... lled+Rotor

IMPORTANT REMINDER: Slotted, drilled or dimpled rotors offered as OEM replacements should not be considered appropriate for high-speed track use.

While grooved, drilled and slotted rotors offer an enhanced appearance and add some resistance to the boundary layer of gasses that can build up between the pad and rotor, they are not designed to withstand the extreme temperatures that are produced on the racetrack. If they are used on the track, it is very important that the rotors be carefully inspected and should not be driven on if even minor signs of deterioration are seen. Note, too, that if these products are used on the track they are not warrantable



p.s. I have no idea why they even mention the boundary gases considering brake pads havent outgassed since the 1950's.


kk thnks for the info. but jus for ur info my front brakes r brembo but their the oem style + same size as oem=not really any better. but now im really thinkin i dont need high performance brakes anyways since i dont auto-x
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Postby Astro » Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:58 pm

I believe that all these rotors are mostly for looks. If you want better stopping power just get the SS brake lines, and if you got the money, a big brake kit. :P
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Postby bassthrive » Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:01 pm

Astro wrote:I believe that all these rotors are mostly for looks. If you want better stopping power just get the SS brake lines, and if you got the money, a big brake kit. :P


definately.

a good set of pads will help braking too, and the absolute best thing you can do for greater stopping power is to get a set of quality tires.
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Postby BradOwens » Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:29 pm

bassthrive wrote:
Astro wrote:I believe that all these rotors are mostly for looks. If you want better stopping power just get the SS brake lines, and if you got the money, a big brake kit. :P


definately.

a good set of pads will help braking too, and the absolute best thing you can do for greater stopping power is to get a set of quality tires.


kk. i need new tires anyways. my fronts are gettin to be worn now after only 8000K
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Postby Hsakuragi » Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:40 pm

remember don't drill holes on ur tires :wink:
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Postby ICrazyChrisI » Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:08 pm

Just get slotted rotors or blanks. Oh yeha..there are companies with dimpled rotors for the 'look' of drilled w/o the cracking
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