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HID / Fog lights don't work

HID / Fog lights don't work

Postby bluesolara » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:07 pm

Hey, I just bought my Solara off of the previous owner and he already has done tons of mods to it, including HID's.

What I was wondering is, how do you ENABLE fog lights?? My Solara's HID's were installed by PlasmaGarage.com (Pics on site) but they must've tampered with the Fog's. They disabled the DRL's (By ripping out the sensor... thanks for letting me decide whether I want to enable it again..) and that's a good thing otherwise my HID's would burn out. But they must've torn out the Fog light wiring along the way or something.

I've searched all over and haven't seen anything like my situation so if you could help, I'd greatly appreciate it!! (The closest is someone who grounded wrong and the fog's didn't work...)

P.S. Is it good to have the ballast RIGHT next to the battery?...

Thanks in advance!
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Postby RichD978 » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:11 pm

when you push the handle forward the blue indicator is high beam not fog ? Theres no indicator for Fogs. At least for my Gen 1 anyway
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Postby bluesolara » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:14 pm

RichD978 wrote:when you push the handle forward the blue indicator is high beam not fog ? Theres no indicator for Fogs. At least for my Gen 1 anyway


Oh... Sorry, so HID's don't have High Beam??... Anyways my fog's don't work at all.
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Postby StockSolara » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:17 pm

RichD978 wrote:when you push the handle forward the blue indicator is high beam not fog ? Theres no indicator for Fogs. At least for my Gen 1 anyway

hahaha I know huh I was reading that I was like wth. . . But yeah if you push the handle forward is your high beams which you won't have because most people with HID didnt want to pay the extra $145 or something for high beams. . . There should be a another switch on that handle for the fogs. . . if its on and your fogs still aren't on that has happen to several people before. . . You can do the independent Fog Light mod to make it work again. . . http://www.solaraguy.org/viewtopic.php?t=9234
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Postby bluesolara » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:19 pm

StockSolara wrote:
RichD978 wrote:when you push the handle forward the blue indicator is high beam not fog ? Theres no indicator for Fogs. At least for my Gen 1 anyway

hahaha I know huh I was reading that I was like wth. . . But yeah if you push the handle forward is your high beams which you won't have because most people with HID didnt want to pay the extra $145 or something for high beams. . . There should be a another switch on that handle for the fogs. . . if its on and your fogs still aren't on that has happen to several people before. . . You can do the independent Fog Light mod to make it work again. . . http://www.solaraguy.org/viewtopic.php?t=9234


Have you personally tried that mod? I was definitely looking to try it sometime, have it bookmarked. And this is going to sound stupid.. but if puishing the left handle forward are for high beams (which I apparently.. do not have) then how do you turn on fog's?
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Postby StockSolara » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:28 pm

bluesolara wrote:
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RichD978 wrote:when you push the handle forward the blue indicator is high beam not fog ? Theres no indicator for Fogs. At least for my Gen 1 anyway

hahaha I know huh I was reading that I was like wth. . . But yeah if you push the handle forward is your high beams which you won't have because most people with HID didnt want to pay the extra $145 or something for high beams. . . There should be a another switch on that handle for the fogs. . . if its on and your fogs still aren't on that has happen to several people before. . . You can do the independent Fog Light mod to make it work again. . . http://www.solaraguy.org/viewtopic.php?t=9234


Have you personally tried that mod? I was definitely looking to try it sometime, have it bookmarked. And this is going to sound stupid.. but if puishing the left handle forward are for high beams (which I apparently.. do not have) then how do you turn on fog's?

I haven't done it but if you would look at the handle there is something on there for the fogs that can twist closer towards the steering wheel
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Postby bluesolara » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:31 pm

yeah... now I know what that switch is, thanks a ton.
I'm probably going to try that independent fog light mod, most likely...
Now I have a reason to purchase the "ColdHeat" =) That thing is neat.

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Postby RichD978 » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:38 pm

did you figure out how to turn the fogs on? when you have high beam on, your fogs are turned off
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Postby WTF?? » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:02 pm

interesting how your 2001 wiring wouldnt allow you to use your fogs with HIDs installed. I found it more common in just the 2000 model.

but anyway, yes my fogs didnt work either when i put in the HIDs, so i went in the route to do independent fogz n im even happier with them
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Postby SpeedSTARs » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:55 pm

WTF?? wrote:interesting how your 2001 wiring wouldnt allow you to use your fogs with HIDs installed. I found it more common in just the 2000 model.

but anyway, yes my fogs didnt work either when i put in the HIDs, so i went in the route to do independent fogz n im even happier with them


:roll: :D Wow, That's weid Bro. I had the H4 single (McCulloch) and Bi Xeon (CATZ HI/LOW Beam) HID conversion kits and the fogs worked fine.


:fadein: Sometimes there is so much current draw from the ballast unit in the initial fire up that it blows the fuses. I ended up uping the fuse to a 30 amper on both the left and right headlamp. The little 5 amp fuse to the left of the relay box (by the battery in the GEN1) is for Day Time Running Lamps and it's also wired to the fog lamp circuity. Or it could be the fuse behind the trinket box to the lower left of the steering column.

:roll: I remember blowing the mini 5 amp fuse in the battery relay box that affected the fog lamps functionality :( . Or... It could be that the terminals were pinned out wrong on the HID conversion kit (only on the low beam HID kits not the Bi xeon kits). If they were pinned out wrong that would mean the high beams are on instead of the low beams. This could be check by the blue light on the instrument cluster. Moreover, when the high beams are on the fog lamps are in the closed circuit state (turned off). At this state, it would be wise to check the interconnect (the HID connector to OEM headlamp connector). Hope info this helps out Bros :angel: :wink:
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Postby Yanks0114 » Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:13 pm

WTF?? wrote:interesting how your 2001 wiring wouldnt allow you to use your fogs with HIDs installed. I found it more common in just the 2000 model.

but anyway, yes my fogs didnt work either when i put in the HIDs, so i went in the route to do independent fogz n im even happier with them


If I understand the original post correctly, he was complaining that his fogs weren't working, but he was really turning on high beams (which weren't available on his HIDs). The fog light switch was probally in the off position
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Postby Yanks0114 » Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:14 pm

SpeedSTARs wrote:
I ended up uping the fuse to a 30 amper on both the left and right headlamp. The little 5 amp fuse to the left of the relay box (by the battery in the GEN1) is for Day Time Running Lamps and it's also wired to the fog lamp circuity. Or it could be the fuse behind the trinket box to the lower left of the steering column.


You should NEVER go to a fuse with a higher amperage!
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Postby SpeedSTARs » Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:33 pm

Yanks0114 wrote:
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I ended up uping the fuse to a 30 amper on both the left and right headlamp. The little 5 amp fuse to the left of the relay box (by the battery in the GEN1) is for Day Time Running Lamps and it's also wired to the fog lamp circuity. Or it could be the fuse behind the trinket box to the lower left of the steering column.


You should NEVER go to a fuse with a higher amperage!


:) I know... But the wires are slightly over engineered to accept the extra current. Besides it's only 5 amps over the factory 25 amp fuse. Now if you start blowing the 30 amps mini fuses the situation is a no go. :angel:
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Postby WTF?? » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:12 pm

Yanks0114 wrote:
WTF?? wrote:interesting how your 2001 wiring wouldnt allow you to use your fogs with HIDs installed. I found it more common in just the 2000 model.

but anyway, yes my fogs didnt work either when i put in the HIDs, so i went in the route to do independent fogz n im even happier with them


If I understand the original post correctly, he was complaining that his fogs weren't working, but he was really turning on high beams (which weren't available on his HIDs). The fog light switch was probally in the off position


haha... his first post is confusing... but after StockSolara's post he says that he knows the On and Off switch... eh whatever :D
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Postby bluesolara » Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:29 pm

SpeedSTARs wrote:
WTF?? wrote:interesting how your 2001 wiring wouldnt allow you to use your fogs with HIDs installed. I found it more common in just the 2000 model.

but anyway, yes my fogs didnt work either when i put in the HIDs, so i went in the route to do independent fogz n im even happier with them


:roll: :D Wow, That's weid Bro. I had the H4 single (McCulloch) and Bi Xeon (CATZ HI/LOW Beam) HID conversion kits and the fogs worked fine.


:fadein: Sometimes there is so much current draw from the ballast unit in the initial fire up that it blows the fuses. I ended up uping the fuse to a 30 amper on both the left and right headlamp. The little 5 amp fuse to the left of the relay box (by the battery in the GEN1) is for Day Time Running Lamps and it's also wired to the fog lamp circuity. Or it could be the fuse behind the trinket box to the lower left of the steering column.

:roll: I remember blowing the mini 5 amp fuse in the battery relay box that affected the fog lamps functionality :( . Or... It could be that the terminals were pinned out wrong on the HID conversion kit (only on the low beam HID kits not the Bi xeon kits). If they were pinned out wrong that would mean the high beams are on instead of the low beams. This could be check by the blue light on the instrument cluster. Moreover, when the high beams are on the fog lamps are in the closed circuit state (turned off). At this state, it would be wise to check the interconnect (the HID connector to OEM headlamp connector). Hope info this helps out Bros :angel: :wink:


Thanks so much man, that helps out a ton. I think the fuses are fine so I won't tinker with that. I'll definitely go take a look at the fuses though, see if they are burnt or not. Also the whole system was set up by PlasmaGarage, they have my Solara on their site http://www.plasmagarage.com/solaraHID.html I have the 6000K H4 Kit.

Also, I know the fog light switch now... and I figured out this:
1. I have the Single Beam HID's... stuck always on "low" beam, which for a HID isn't that low.
2. The blue indicator light on dash isn't showing, meaning my high beams aren't on.
3. I know the fog light button and have tried it, not working.
4. I have a bad Ballast, "Eagleye"... I don't know, previous owner got it installed at a "quality" shop (plasmagarage.com).
5. My DRL's are completely... well let's just say the sensor is no where in sight, the shop did a good job at making them disappear.
6. Ballast... might be touching metal? I'll wrap them but don't know if it'll help.

I think I'm going with WTF? and get the independent fogs, try that out, if that still doesn't work... then well, taking it to a shop.

P.S. Do you guys even use fogs that much? The HID's are so great that I don't think it would matter that much, just I'd like to use fog's when it's pouring (like the storm we just had).

So SpeedSTARs, you plug and played your HID's and the fogs were just fine?

Basically... I'm going to do the Independents... really hope it helps, that's my last resort before taking to shop and spending money that would go to my short ram intake to get my body touched up and finding out this prob.

Thanks to everyone who responded, I'm sorry if I'm noobish.. this is my "first car" I had a '95 Camry that I had for 3 weeks before selling and getting this great Solara.
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