Spacers, whats the difference??

by **hari-bhari** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:51 am

Looking around ebay, I saw these two different types of spacers:

$20 shipped per pair
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PAIR-5mm ... enameZWDVW

$75 shipped per pair
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ichiba-5 ... dZViewItem

what's the difference between these and what causes the price difference? the only difference i can see is that the first one is meant to be more universal and fit different bolt patterns (and perhaps bore sizes). Maybe its not the same diameter as the hub? Anyone here have the cheaper type?

by **PoshPepper** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:04 am

The second ones include new lugs so that you will still have the same amount of thread available on the lug after you install the spacer. Usually the kind like the second pair are larger (like 10mm as opposed to 2mm on the first kind)...
This is just from looking at the pics, I didnt go to the listings to find out the actual specs...
The cheaper type is for smaller additions (2mm) and the more expensive type is for larger additions (15mm)... I know that Milt has used both types before...

by **thealkimo** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:12 pm

i'm using spacers on the rear similar to the $20 ones and so far no problems...

by **PXLpainter** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:03 pm

I ran the cheaper spacers before as well - just used a little light adhesive on the back to get them to stay centered while I put the wheel on and tightened it down.

I have pretty think spacers though - really had to torque down the lugs and keep an eye on them, but they performed just fine for me. :up:

Others will tell you to get the more expensive kind so you'll have the extended lugs as well - which is probably a good idea in the long run. Didn't want to go to the expense myself since I was only testing it out at the time.

by **orlin03** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:56 pm

http://store.ichibausa.com/solara99.html
The good types are sold cheaper here; starting at $59 with lugs...
I am using the cheap type on the front of my 06 right now, and ones made for the car on the rear. The cheap ones are such a hassel though that if I hadn't already had the pair lying in my toolbox, I would've sprung for the good ones. Besides, who wants to chance losing a wheel due to over-stressed lug nuts that aren't grabbing as much thread as they should? I did use new lugs with them, but there is still the matter of centering them when I install the wheel.

by **---CAMRAZY---** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:12 pm

**PoshPepper** wrote:The second ones include new lugs so that you will still have the same amount of thread available on the lug after you install the spacer. Usually the kind like the second pair are larger (like 10mm as opposed to 2mm on the first kind)...
This is just from looking at the pics, I didnt go to the listings to find out the actual specs...
The cheaper type is for smaller additions (2mm) and the more expensive type is for larger additions (15mm)... I know that Milt has used both types before...

You are right, I have used the cheaper ones to clear a mm or 2 from the struts, one is fine, but do not stack them up (even though I have), it is not recommended.. Like PXLpainter said, you gotta torque them down and you run the risk of the lug not catching enough threads on the stud and worse case-scenario you lose a tire on the freeway (Which has happened to a lot of people by stacking them).

The thicker ones with the studs, I use now on both of my camrys for the more aggressive tire pushed out look, the studs are longer and with the spacer placed it is equivalent to the length of an oem stud.

Also, I use the H&R spacers since they have the hub-centric lip, KICS is a good brand also, but you gotta buy the Hub-centric lip separately.

by **indiglosolara** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:17 pm

---CAMRAZY--- wrote:
**PoshPepper** wrote:The second ones include new lugs so that you will still have the same amount of thread available on the lug after you install the spacer. Usually the kind like the second pair are larger (like 10mm as opposed to 2mm on the first kind)...
This is just from looking at the pics, I didnt go to the listings to find out the actual specs...
The cheaper type is for smaller additions (2mm) and the more expensive type is for larger additions (15mm)... I know that Milt has used both types before...

You are right, I have used the cheaper ones to clear a mm or 2 from the struts, one is fine, but do not stack them up (even though I have), it is not recommended.. Like PXLpainter said, you gotta torque them down and you run the risk of the lug not catching enough threads on the stud and worse case-scenario you lose a tire on the freeway (Which has happened to a lot of people by stacking them).

The thicker ones with the studs, I use now on both of my camrys for the more aggressive tire pushed out look, the studs are longer and with the spacer placed it is equivalent to the length of an oem stud.

Also, I use the H&R spacers since they have the hub-centric lip, KICS is a good brand also, but you gotta buy the Hub-centric lip separately.

Right on!!! Remember... Your wheels are the only thing making contact to the ground... You dont want to go cheap on this... Just like tires..... You pay for what you get... I am running Kics Project spacers on my xB and they come with sperate hubring and spacer and also second set of lugs...

But the quality out beats any that I have used in the pass... clearing 2 or 3mm with those cheap ones is ok... but anything more be sure you get quality stuff....

Safety FIRST!!!

by **hari-bhari** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:22 pm

yea im only goin for 5mm so i guess the cheap ones will do. 5mm shouldnt make a diff with the lugs

by **Toy1mzfe** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:09 pm

im gonna get some 20mm ones if i put on my is300 wheels. h&r is a good company rite?

You guys think 20mm is enough to make the rear flushed with the fender?

by **Mole** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:26 pm

20 mm is a lot of placement.

with the right size and offset the wheel can be flush...

but then since you're using the IS wheel, i am unsure.

by **orlin03** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:43 pm

Toy1mzfe wrote:im gonna get some 20mm ones if i put on my is300 wheels. h&r is a good company rite?

You guys think 20mm is enough to make the rear flushed with the fender?

I'm using 25mm on the stock rim (gen2) to get flush...

They work great, are centered on the hub, made from Magnesiun/aluminum alloy, and there is no extra torque needed... just 80lbs to the hub, and 80lbs on the wheel. 129 for the set; or 109 for the 20mm ones. http://store.ichibausa.com/solara99.html

by **Toy1mzfe** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:58 pm

Thanks, always good to kno more companys for spacers.

Spacers, whats the difference??

Spacers, whats the difference??

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