Level-10 Auto tranny valve body group buy

by **JoeB** » Sun Dec 14, 2003 5:01 pm

Is anyone interested in a group buy on the Level-10 auto tranny valve body recalibration? I haven't talked to them yet but if there is interest, I will call them up and ask if they will consider it.

I think we'd probably all agree, asside from the high cost, the fuel issue is currently the biggest issue with the late model Camry/Solara. JP Performance solved the exhaust airflow and now Underdog Racing Development has solved the fuel problem. see this thread http://www.zer0.info/solaraguy/viewtopic.php?t=6541. The only problem is us poor auto tranny owners are left with our transmissions being a weak link.

I have been planning on having Level-10 recalibrate the valve bodies on my tranny for a few months now. With the new power from my fuel system upgrade, I don't think I can wait much longer. When I called them before, they told me that with their modifications, the transmission is so efficient, you don't even need a trany cooler. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll try to arrange a discount for a group. If you aren't near NJ, you can have your mechanic send the valve bodies to Level-10 and they will do the work and return them very quickly. -JoeB

by **SC V6** » Sun Dec 14, 2003 7:24 pm

Im in for Sure
later
Scott

... Get a group buy for the whole rebuild, torque convertor and all! Their whole "bulletproof" system
later

by **808Camry** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 1:33 pm

I'm in depending on the estimated down time and the actual costs.

by **Yanks0114** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 2:52 pm

808Camry wrote:I'm in depending on the estimated down time and the actual costs.

Same

by **GoT_TRD** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:32 pm

I'm in depending on the estimated down time and the actual costs.

yea, what he said....

by **JoeB** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:02 am

GREAT NEWS

I got a message from Gadget regarding discounts on upgrades through Level-10. Gadget has contacts there and was able to work out a sweet deal for us (THANKS GADGET!). I followed up this message with a call to Level-10 just for some clarification. Here's the scoop:

UPGRADE Reg Price Disc Price

HydroSystem Valve Body Recalibrations $698 $598
PTS Torque Converter (modification) $498 $400
PTS Transmission System $3,264 $2,864

In order to take advantage of this incredible deal, you must mention Gadget's name. I've already booked my appointment. I'm getting the Torque Converter upgraded and the valve bodies recalibrated. I'm taking it to them to get it done. They offer a turn around service where you ship the parts to them, they upgrade them and ship them back to you. The turn-around for the valve bodies is 24-48hrs and the torque converter and the transmission system is 2-3 days. If you're interested call Level-10 and work out the details with them, just make sure to mention Gadget's name. I'm not sure what the expiration of the offer is, again, contact them if you are interested.

Just a little commentary: The automatic transmission in the Camry/Solara especially was geared towards a luxury feel (soft shifts). These soft/slow shifts are very hard on a transmission under load or in high performance applications. Gadget was succesful in snapping his transmission in his 3.4L 4-Runner with similar mods to what many of us have done. He made me promise I would have my tranny properly taken care of after the upgrades that he did to my fuel system. I asked Level-10 for a transmission cooler recomendation. They said with the valve body recalibration, a cooler wasn't even needed. They also mentioned just the valve body recalibration would take .2 Secs off the 1/4 mile time and recover approximately 4% of lost power in the typical loss an auto tranny has. I forgot to ask about the torque converter upgrade but it would most certainly improve it as well. -JoeB http://www.levelten.com/

by **SC V6** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:46 am

nice... is the whole tranny their "bullet Proof" system???
later
Scott

p.s. someone should look into a DIY for pulling the auto tranny out..
later
Also. how long is this buy going to last?

by **808Camry** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:25 pm

for our applications, would just the valve body upgrade be enough or the torque converter upgrade be necessary as well?

by **SC V6** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:35 pm

go big or go home... thats what I say

by **JoeB** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:13 pm

I think just the valve body recalibration is best for the majority of the people. I don't know where the cutoff would be but the PTS Transmission System is for when you get serious hp like >400-500. They didn't tell me that, just my understanding from the discussion about what it was for. Simply recalibrating the valve bodies makes it much more durable and efficient. I want to do the torque converter because I'm convinced it will further increase the performance and improve the 1/4 mile ET. Some people are concerned about the driveability of the car after the high stall converter. The way they explained it to me is our stall speed is 2,000 RPM. They only change it to 2400 RPM. Although it doesn't sound like much, it makes a BIG difference. They can explain it better than I can. -JoeB

by **GoT_TRD** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:37 am

but my stall speed is already at 2400 rpm... Do i have a upgraded tranny i dont know about??

btw, whats included in the pts transmission system?

by **SC V6** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 9:14 am

the PTS rebuild has all of their products into one tranny.. basically the valve body calibration, super pump tech, torque convertor, all the great parts for the rebuild itself.. basically.. all the good shi#
later
Scott

by **JoeB** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:10 pm

GoT_TRD wrote:but my stall speed is already at 2400 rpm... Do i have a upgraded tranny i dont know about??

btw, whats included in the pts transmission system?

Actually, that is your brake stall speed. This is different. If you want to understand it better though, I'm affraid you'll have to ask the experts at Level-10. As for what's included, look on their web page. I put the link in the first post. They have all the informantion there and they also have their phone number posted. -JoeB

by **agentdpuble07** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:28 am

what is the difference between the pts kit and the performance tranny. the kit says it makes it bullet proof. so if i buy the kit and get a transmission guy to install it will it be the same thing if i send my tranny to get it bullet proofed at fraction the price

by **JoeB** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 7:54 pm

I think you are correct. My understanding is if you get the valve bodies recalibrated by Level 10 AND have that kit installed, you will have the same parts as the Bullet Proof Trasmission. BUT, it will most likely not be the same quality as the transmission done by Level 10. They've been doing these for a long time. Their office is covered with technical articles they've done and magazine articles mentioning their work. They also have an impressive list of regular business customers.

I've heard rumors about bad customer service and other complaints so I wanted to check it out before I spent all that money and trusted my car to them. In EVERY case I could find (not just hear-say), it turned out to be poor communication on the part of the customer or the customer had other things done and then blamed the problem on Level 10.

The problem is, these transmissions are very sophisticated. They make automatic transmissions from American cars look easy. The shop that does the work should not only be good with transmissions, but very good with these transmissions. I personally think none of us are close to needing the bullet-proof transmission. Simply having the valve bodies recalibrated is enough to allow a lot more hp to it and will decrease the operating temperature. If you're planning on your car pushing like 500 hp, consider the bullet-proof. I pick my car up from Level 10 tomorrow

. -JoeB

Level-10 Auto tranny valve body group buy

Level-10 Auto tranny valve body group buy

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