is there a ground kit for the v6? or is it the same as an I4

[Mole]

where'd you get them?

[FLASH]

Ground Kit...are you referring to Coilovers?

[Jackass-Jeff]

They should all be the same. They are just making more metal points touch eachother... The cable lengths may be different though.... they have "small car" "medium" and "large" car packages... you might as well get the large car package and start bolting the damn things all around

[solrchrgd]

I just made my own ground wires with some 8 gauge wire and gold plated o ring terminals. You could check out my site on this http://members.cardomain.com/solrchrgd

Bryan

[dan99solara]

I just made my own ground wires with some 8 gauge wire and gold plated o ring terminals. You could check out my site on this http://members.cardomain.com/solrchrgd

Bryan

hey i love your car! great job!

[Turbosolara]

I made my own set with 4 gauge wire and gold plated terminal.

[bassthrive]

Apologies for this quasi-resurrection but I noticed UltraSlow has all the ground wires coming together at the negative terminal. Most ground kits I have seen use assorted length wires that chain across the engine bay. Is one method significantly better than the other?

Also, are the $20 eBay hyper ground kits pieces of crap or are they quality pieces to consider as an inexpensive, worthwhile mod?

- Paul

[Fletch]

I'd be willing to pay for a ground kit with wires to the correct length and terminals already on. With the performance people and audiophiles on this site I think there would be decent interest. Look how many people have Jim's fuel upgrade...

Anybody else?

[Jackass-Jeff]

TTT

I'm looking into the Apex'i Ground Kit (Retail around 230)

I've found it for 180... gonna check if I can find it cheaper (GB)

Maybe even RJ can help us.

[s15lara]

this is going to sound like such a noob question, but what does the kit actually do? what is it used for? sorry for such a dumb quest. just thought i would ask. Milt, dont flame me pls.

[Jackass-Jeff]

this is going to sound like such a noob question, but what does the kit actually do? what is it used for? sorry for such a dumb quest. just thought i would ask. Milt, dont flame me pls.

The kit is, essentially, a bunch of tires connecting major electrical points to one another... making a stronger ground.

In theory (now almost proven), this can help regulate irregular electrical activity (spikes, dips, etc) and help your car's electrical system become more efficient (depending on how bad it was stock, i suppose)

The Apex'i kit was put in a test against the other ones (SUN, HKS, um... a few others and a lot of companies said they didn't want to be involved in such a test) and the Apex'i kit actually pulled an overall 8.5 HP gain on a WRX (Dyno, no loss, only gains).

So... Subaru may have a really crappy ground in their car right now... or this ground kit is cool! =P A stronger electrical system will benefit the spark plugs (easier spark, more efficient at burning the a/f mixture).

Personally, I want it because I have a lot of "extra" crap running off the electrical system and I want to make sure the ground I have is enough to prevent any malfunctions in my equipment...

[SleeperSolara]

I have one almost done.
I felt a better difference just replacin' a few wires, all except for the big OEM 4 guage wires and the one that attaches to the lower block.

[Turbosolara]

Where did you see the test from? I would like to read it in detail because i think in theory they should be pretty much the same. Unless Apexi used thicker shorter wires.

I think no company can beat 4 gauge wires with gold plated terminal. I just made my own set on my 240sx last week, the mpg improved from 22 mpg to 25 mpg.

[JoeB]

I've always thought grounding wires were a gimmik for the most part. That is, to say they will add "X" horse power to every vehicle sounds like marketing hype to me. That is like saying these engineers, both mechanical and electrical that work for these auto manufacturers couldn't figure out how to adequately ground the system. On the other hand, I am 100% convinced that stories of gains and improvements on some platforms are definitely real. I just find it hard to believe that you can simply add some grounding wires to every car and get improvements. I've always thought of Toyota as "better quality". Thinking, they wouldn't screw up on something as easy as that. However, I will definitely admit when I'm wrong. Are you guys saying you've added grounding wires to a Gen-1 1MZ-FE Solara and seen real improvements? So many times people do something and say, "I noticed a big difference" when it was all imagined. It's one of those things like your car runs better after you wash and wax it... Is there really an improvement on our platform?

If so, I should do this. The area, I could technically understand and believe gains is that all of the sensors and electrical components in the car work off DC voltage. The nature of DC voltage is a potential in reference to a return path or ground. I could believe that if there are sensors or something that is poorly grounded, that would make the car run less efficient. If so, what points are you grounding that give the improvements? For those that did DIY (Joseph), where'd you get that nice wire and the gold plated connectors (more specifics on parts), what kit from Apex'i (Jeff)? -JoeB

[hari-bhari]

where does the ground wire of the stock battery go to? also, i have to ground my amp somewhere close to the amp (in the trunk). anyone have a good point?

on another note, i dont see the point in paying 200 for a ground kit that simply consists of a bunch of wires and connectors and nothing else, that you still have to install yourself. all the materials for really high quality wires and terminals would probably cost you no more than 30-40 bucks at the most, and crimping a terminal onto a wire takes like 2 seconds. thats just my .02. but that is sorta cool that re-grounding can improve performance, i never thought of that