Fuel Management

by **Paladin06Greg** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 1:37 pm

All,

I'm debating on the purchase of a fuel management system. I think with the number of mods I have a MS would be money well spent. I'm finally getting a Dyno run this week as well.

If you agree with my MS idea please suggest which one will give the most bang for the buck.

See my sight for details on mods to date.

http://www.sounddomain.com/id/paladin06

by **Yanks0114** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:06 pm

Go for the Greddy E-Manage that ultraslow is using. You can also contact EricSol and get the split second management system which has been great for him

Website · by **Turbosolara** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:08 pm

E-manage is very nice but i think cost higher to tune because it is more complicate. to learn more about e-manage you can go here

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/

by **cdssolara** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:52 pm

I agree with the above. I don't know that it's necessary to get that sophisticated. The Split Second FTC is probably a good way to go.

by **JoeB** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:51 pm

I agree with the recommendation to go with the Split Second FTC and I'm using it too. You can get it for a good price from URD. A nice thing about it is it allows you tu make adjusments at pressure levels rather than simply RPM. JoeB

by **shidosha01** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:40 am

JoeB wrote:I agree with the recommendation to go with the Split Second FTC and I'm using it too. You can get it for a good price from URD. A nice thing about it is it allows you tu make adjusments at pressure levels rather than simply RPM. JoeB

Joe...

Please tell me a little more about the Split Second FTC. I'm starting to think that I have reached the adjusting limits of the SAFC II. I know on the SAFC you can make adjustments up to +50 or -50 on Air/fuel. But what can the SS FTC do that the SAFC can't? I know about the ability of the SS FTC pulling timing but how much can it adjust the fuel map?

Website · by **xyntax** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:00 am

About E-Manage, you can actually tune it yourself with a Laptop. Costs around $300 to get the kit you need. There is a good site where you can download stuff for E-manage, instructions, experiences from other users. Go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/e-manage and join the group.

I'm a member there and I got to download the E-manage software. Well, you can't just download the software and expect to tune your car. You still need the E-manage computer module itself. I'm just using it to log and tune my Canzoomer unit on my RX.

Looking at that site, it seems like nobody has done it on a Solara yet.

by **Paladin06Greg** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:20 am

I see two versions of the FTC. Which one do you have?

JoeB wrote:I agree with the recommendation to go with the Split Second FTC and I'm using it too. You can get it for a good price from URD. A nice thing about it is it allows you tu make adjusments at pressure levels rather than simply RPM. JoeB

Website · by **Turbosolara** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:20 pm

e-manage is complicate becaues it does Fine tunning. With laptop it is also very idel for street tunning.

http://www.superstreetonline.com/techarticles/87158/

by **JoeB** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:50 pm

I talked to Rizal today but for others benefit and Rizal, I would consider the Greddy E-Manage because it is popular and many tuners are familiar with it. I don't know it's capabilities though. I have the Split Second FTC-017 I got from URD. They sell it for less than retail from Split Second. It has significantly more range of adjustment for fuel than the AFC, allows you to adjust timing AND instead of a flat tune according to RPM, you can tune on a grid to RPM/PSI (VERY IMPORTANT). Tuning on load is very significant. You can just imagine your fuel requirement at -10inHg @3000rpm is not the same as 6psi @3000rpm. -JoeB

Website · by **xyntax** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:44 pm

Here's a good site (#1 for E-manage stuff):
http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/

by **JoeB** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:34 pm

After looking at that information for the Greddy e-Manage, I would recommend the Split Second unit. The reason is, although it might(?) give more adjustment range than the SAFC, and it looks like it will allow you to adjust timing IF you buy the optional harness kit for the Ignition Timing Control, it offers what I would call a "simulated" 3D fuel map. They do this by adjusting on a grid of RPM and throttle position. What you really need is RPM and psi. The actual manifold pressure is a better indicator of load than the throttle position. There is an optional Greddy pressure sensor but I don't see how having that would change the maps for tuning. As far as the Split Second unit not being familiar to tuning shops, I think most tuners will be just fine if you spend a few minutes with them and explain it to them. They see many different EMSs. Just don't ask them to read the manual. :wink:

-JoeB

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