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what engine swaps have been done with the solara

Postby made in china » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:40 pm

CamrySE-soCALlara wrote:Yes the 3MZ can be done, which is the 3.3, and yes the 2GR which is the 3.5, also if the 2GR is possible why not the 1GR which is the 4.0, it too can be done as well.

The truth of it is that most of the guys on here are short on cash, and buying a part that is $200+ is very challenging to accomplish.... Let alone a swap that is going to cost over 1000, 2000, 3000, etc.,... lol

Anything is possible, most of the guys on here including myself cannot afford it.

Also, some solara owners that I have encountered do not know how to do basic mechanic work yet alone pull out a engine, wiring, etc., lol


Lastly, no one wants to be the pioneer, as in your swaps you have not been the first... It has been done before making it easier on the ones to follow. Bottom line, most people are not up for the task, nor have the financial resource to do swaps here.

I praise you for doing your swaps, unfortunately it is not the same here with the solara.


THX for the info. I am just curious if those other motors will bolt up to my 5speed.

BTW, I was the FIRST guy to ever (as far as anyone else knows) successfully do a MT swap in a Gen 2 Legend. When I first started asking around about it...everyone said it was impossible. They said that they heard of others trying and failing. I did it, found it was easy, others started to do it also...then they started swapping the 3.2's for 3.5's, then they started interchanging 3.2 and 3.5 parts, etc etc. Heck, I even fooled the AT ECU into running the MT car... Sometimes, none of it is as difficult as people like to say. I have much respect for the turbo 1MZ Camry and Solaras that I have seen online. Now that is ALOT of work...swapping motors is definitely within the means of those people.

And it's not just about money. I found that it was about IF you could find the time to do these things. I guess though, if you had the time, you might not have the money...oh well.

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Postby made in china » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:52 pm

Turbosolara wrote:yes it can be done but i just tried to say that it is not common because it is more complicated.

the chance you would see a swaped nissan and honda is more than seeing a swaped toyota, especially post OBDII cars ( i mean a toyota with different motors)


I disagree. What would make the Camry more complicated than the Maxima?? Both cars have variable valve timing, MAF, MAP, knock, multiple heated O2 sensors, load sensors on the PS pump, etc etc. In fact, I would say that Toyota and Nissan probably have nearly identical engine control systems. Not trying to call you out, but I feel if you haven't tried it, you shouldn't knock it.

I am just looking for better info about this subject.

That new 268HP 3.5 wouldn't be worth the trouble?? The only 1MZ cars making more than 268HP are turbo'ed....or running troublesome SC setups (I guess the TRD SC is troublesome when pushed...but I am only in passing what I've read here). With the 3.5 now being installed into many platforms, and the new Camry being genuinely "sporty", I wouldn't doubt that this new Toyota V6 might actually get some "play" from the aftermarket. Having the 3.5 in your car would really open up your performance options down the line...
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Postby ---CAMRAZY--- » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:56 pm

This forum is more helpful...

http://www.mr2board.com/forums/mk-2-v6/

And so is this one....

http://www.mr2oc.com/forumdisplay.php?f=188

BTW... Check this out...

http://www.mr2oc.com/forumdisplay.php?f=187


Register to look.... BTW, I know they are not solaras, but they use the E153 Manual Tranny, same as the Solara (with different gear ratios)... A lot of those guys will tell you otherwise to this thread.

BTW, check this out...

http://www.solaraguy.org/viewtopic.php? ... light=swap

True it is not a solara, but it is the 1MZ and I done a 5 speed swap on it 4 months ago.
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Postby DatSRBoi » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:59 pm

Im still waiting for a mad scientist to hit up a street legal Supra block in one of the solara haha.
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Postby made in china » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:06 pm

CamrySE-soCALlara wrote:This forum is more helpful...

http://www.mr2board.com/forums/mk-2-v6/

And so is this one....

http://www.mr2oc.com/forumdisplay.php?f=188

BTW... Check this out...

http://www.mr2oc.com/forumdisplay.php?f=187


Register to look.... BTW, I know they are not solaras, but they use the E153 Manual Tranny, same as the Solara (with different gear ratios)... A lot of those guys will tell you otherwise to this thread.

BTW, check this out...

http://www.solaraguy.org/viewtopic.php? ... light=swap

True it is not a solara, but it is the 1MZ and I done a 5 speed swap on it 4 months ago.


Holy crap man....right on! That is off the chain :drinking:

BTW, thanks for the links. I'll be watching you....... :robot:
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Postby sydemoid » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:15 pm

OK

Im gonna put on my thinking cap....

The new Camry's V6 should physically fit in the Solara. Gen 1's would be the challenge, due to obvious sensor differences. But, if you were to do that, why not run an Emanage, or a TECIII?

I believe you could net more HP from tuning on a 1MZ, and keeping it close to stock... meaning, if we had the ability to control the programming for the engine's ECU, you could in all essence manipulate the 1MZ's sensor, prevent CEL, and make more HP. (not talking about 100, but I think 10-15 HP is attainable).

Im looking into Unichip's offerings, I am being told that it is a complex system to piggyback, because it has no pre-programming, which means you need to know how to map out the spark/fuel delivery timing... blah blah blah..... but Im thinking about a mere 30 HP gain...

Tune it, run an intake with CAE, an exhaust, beefed up internals, bigger injectors/fule pump... you could easily get 20hp... <- being conservative here...

The new 3.5 would be crazy!!!!.... I thought about that when they mentioned the new Camry was putting out 260hp... I also thought to myself that the new 3.5 may have a similar bottom end to the 1MZ.... get a VVTI controller, and you might be able to run them heads on a 1MZ.

As you can see, I have given this some thought.... but as stated previously, $$$ is hard to come by, and it is my understanding that most of us do not have the ability to spend our hard earned cash on crazy projects.

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Postby Sebas007 » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:52 am

2GR-FE 3.5L V6 (2007 Camry SE V6)

This engine output not 260hp nor 268hp it's 280hp (like in the 2005 Avalon http://www.edmunds.com/used/2005/toyota/avalon/100510859/specs.html ) .
But with the new SAE it is rated at 268hp.
280hp at the engine minus all the hp took by some parts that are plug on the engine during the test = 268hp

They try with this SAE J1349 rating to advertised customer with the power available when all the important parts of the car are working on the engine.

http://www.sae.org/certifiedpower/brochure.pdf

We are in a transition and I think is better to wait 1-2 years to compare HP between automotive brand. Toyota and Honda already started using it for current models.
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Postby TMMK Toy » Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:19 pm

The main reason why not many people fool with these cars is because it isn't a Honduh or a Nissan. Which means we don't get the most options aftermarket wise. 2GR engine could work, but not sure if the manual tranny would bolt up. I do think its dumb they're leaving the 3mz in them now, but prob. because Toyota doesnt plan to keep the Solara in production much longer and replace it with the ACE. Anyway, 1MZ isn't a bad platform, just needs more support and the high compression ratio stock isn't exactly high boost happy, but it can be done.
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Postby TMMK Toy » Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:46 pm

Oh ya, thought of another possible swap. The 5VZ from the tacoma. A guy on toyota nation is doing it on his third gen camry. VZ engines were used on Camries from 92-93 and SW20 guys use them as well as 1MZ, so mounts shouldn't be totally difficult to work with. Can supercharge it as well or fab a turbo kit.
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Postby sbsolara84 » Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:29 pm

Swaps are never easy. If it was easy and inexpensive, wouldn't we all do it. It is definitely possible, but it just comes down to the cost, time, and effort.

Doing a swap on a toyota is as complicated as doing it on any car.

A car was designed to fit a certain of engine, if you want to modify that it's not gonna be easy.

I'm sure it's easier to do a v6 swap into an i4 solara than a supra engine, but once again it comes down to the cost, time, knowledge, etc...

Just speculating, but solaras aren't meant to be race cars, that's y we dont see all these major swaps. There are a couple of track cars, but nothing major. Check out the MR2 forums, those guys are freaking crazieeeee.

ohhhh, how I wish we can all put 2jz into our solara and do a RWD conversion. lol

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Postby ---CAMRAZY--- » Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:23 am

TMMK Toy wrote:Oh ya, thought of another possible swap. The 5VZ from the tacoma. A guy on toyota nation is doing it on his third gen camry. VZ engines were used on Camries from 92-93 and SW20 guys use them as well as 1MZ, so mounts shouldn't be totally difficult to work with. Can supercharge it as well or fab a turbo kit.


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Postby TMMK Toy » Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:26 am

CamrySE-soCALlara wrote:
TMMK Toy wrote:Oh ya, thought of another possible swap. The 5VZ from the tacoma. A guy on toyota nation is doing it on his third gen camry. VZ engines were used on Camries from 92-93 and SW20 guys use them as well as 1MZ, so mounts shouldn't be totally difficult to work with. Can supercharge it as well or fab a turbo kit.


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Awesome. Sorry, don't know everyone so well yet so didn't make the connection. Cant me posted on that swap. Can't wait to see it
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Postby ---CAMRAZY--- » Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:27 am

TMMK Toy wrote:
CamrySE-soCALlara wrote:
TMMK Toy wrote:Oh ya, thought of another possible swap. The 5VZ from the tacoma. A guy on toyota nation is doing it on his third gen camry. VZ engines were used on Camries from 92-93 and SW20 guys use them as well as 1MZ, so mounts shouldn't be totally difficult to work with. Can supercharge it as well or fab a turbo kit.


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Awesome. Sorry, don't know everyone so well yet so didn't make the connection. Cant me posted on that swap. Can't wait to see it


Its cool man, Im just teasing you, Ill keep you guys posted for sure...
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Postby made in china » Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:03 am

sbsolara84 wrote:Swaps are never easy. If it was easy and inexpensive, wouldn't we all do it. It is definitely possible, but it just comes down to the cost, time, and effort.

Doing a swap on a toyota is as complicated as doing it on any car.

A car was designed to fit a certain of engine, if you want to modify that it's not gonna be easy.

I'm sure it's easier to do a v6 swap into an i4 solara than a supra engine, but once again it comes down to the cost, time, knowledge, etc...

Just speculating, but solaras aren't meant to be race cars, that's y we dont see all these major swaps. There are a couple of track cars, but nothing major. Check out the MR2 forums, those guys are freaking crazieeeee.

ohhhh, how I wish we can all put 2jz into our solara and do a RWD conversion. lol

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And Civics, Accords, Preludes and Maximas ARE race cars??

A real race car remains untouchable by most modified cars, no matter what people do to 'em. A modified car can never touch a race car's engineering, safety and dynamics. Modified cars just usually approach race cars in one aspect like straight line power then they break.

My point is, nothing wrong with a 280HP NA motor in a Solara. That would turn up the quotient quite a bit.
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Postby ---CAMRAZY--- » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:41 am

made in china wrote:And Civics, Accords, Preludes and Maximas ARE race cars??

A real race car remains untouchable by most modified cars, no matter what people do to 'em. A modified car can never touch a race car's engineering, safety and dynamics. Modified cars just usually approach race cars in one aspect like straight line power then they break.

My point is, nothing wrong with a 280HP NA motor in a Solara. That would turn up the quotient quite a bit.


Agreed, like I stated before, most of the guys on here do not have the resources for such an extensive job on their solara. Therefore making it seem it is impossible to do a swap on a solara...


Here is a link for you guys (true it is not a solara but just want to get my point across)...

http://bedellracing.home.comcast.net/v8swap/

and another

http://www.supracharged.com/swaps.shtml


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