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Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby WUTANGCLAN » Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:26 am

^Can't be any more spot on than that. Gabe is also correct, it's crazy how much things have changed on both toyotanation and solaraguy, and for that, it's one of the reasons why I haven't been on these sites in a dog's age
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Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby TLMNICK » Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:55 pm

Wow, it seems as if a lot of forums are turning into this. I spend most of my "forum time" on the maxima forums, and I get caught up in a lot of the same crap, and I get stuck with parts that I don't need.

As far as my solara goes, I haven't modded it one bit in terms of performance, mainly because I just don't know enough about the car mechanically to get the work done right...and here in Toronto, there is nobody I'd trust to touch that car.

My question now is, HOW could one go about cracking down on these people who agree to buy, and then bail? It's tough when it's through either PM, e-mail, or a phone call. For me, it's like I'm taking a chance every time I order something for someone, and I know that if they decide they don't have money anymore, then I'm stuck with the parts. What's worse is sometimes, they'll show up, get the work done, and then tell me "sorry, I only brought X amount of money with me...is that ok?" Hell no it's not ok. If you don't have the money, then don't pretend you do and buy $hit you can't afford !
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Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby hskrsolara » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:10 pm

^^Its tough, but the only way to crack down on them is to flame them publicly when they give bad info or pull a stunt. It's the way it used to be, and separated most of the BS successfully, but the flamer may come off as a dick to someone that doesnt know them well.

If it is a question of common knowledge, tell the poster to SEARCH, instead of diving into a long thought out response. Avoid feeding a troll, make them do a little research before getting everything spoon fed to them.
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Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby Sp33d » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:34 pm

We used to flame all the newbies ALL the time. But back then, there were more educated guys about our platform versus the newbs coming in. It made it easy to smash down on the stupidity. I remember a time a kid put fake autozone flames on his ride and we all made hima new a55 hole.Now, the ratio has gone to far more newbs then guys that are still dedicated to this platform. It's a losing battle.

Like myself, it's become much easier to disregard the stupidity then to spend time and correct the misinterpretation of information then to flame them down. Too much energy required and there's too many newbies. Plus, if they were even slightly dedicated, our search forum has given me HOURS of useful information.

I'd like to eventually do a 5 speed swap. Yes I occasionally ask the same guys for a price quote but I repeatedly tell them of my intention of using only the best parts and not doing a half a55 job of using only stock parts.

It is a shame what our community has come to....but the precious few who carry on the platform will see through all this stupidity. And truth be told, I'm waiting for another twenty years where our platform will easily be a time tested classic Toyota.

Until then my friends, Let's bide our time and let the stupidity pass on by.

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Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby trd4life » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:09 am

good point!
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Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby 02slera » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:38 pm

I think the problem is very easily explained...
"back then" refers to a time when the car cost a bit to acquire, so the Solara owners were people that had a little money in their pocket.
That with the fact that the world is flooded with idiots due to our society ruining the process of natural selection by supporting the weak.
am i the only one that has noticed that as time goes on, people are becoming less intelligent? We are all doomed.
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Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby indiglosolara » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:04 pm

I agree with Gabe and a few others.

This forum isn't what it use to be like when all of us OG's were modding our rides. I agree we have allot of newbies that are just plane flakes.
I get PM's and email all the time for Decals and HID's, the last time I went out on a limb and printed a batch not even 25% of the ppls that said they wanted decals even paid.

And Guess what?? I got stuck with all of it and never making back what I spend into getting them printed.
That's why the last time someone PMed me I told them straight out, look unless you can get enough ppl buying them I am not going to print them.
I have to spent my time and money to get them made and its not like I was making money on it. I usally break even and if I do profit it goes to SG.

Afterall they are SG Decals.

Same goes for HID's.. I have now had 3 buyers order HID's from me. I get a PM confirming they want the kit. I order and pick up from my vendor. I try to collect payment before I send them out and I won't hear from them anymore. I now have HID's that I already paid for that the buyers didn't come through. I would normally collect first but sometimes I want to make sure my vendor has them so I don't give me customers false hope and not have them in stock so I order the kits and make sure they are picked up. Ran into a few times where buyer pays me and I can't get the HIDs for 2 weeks and I do not like doing that to them.

However there are a few good buyers on there.. So its not all bad. Like Jarod is pretty good about his word in buying parts from me and have ordered quiet a few HID kits from me for his friends and family. Greg and Albert of course has always come through. After all my wheels and suspension were sold to them and I didn't even need to post them on here for long.
I think reputation is important. although I am not as active I do talk to allot of the OG members here via phone and email.
For the ones that buy from me all the time I usually will hook you up. Just like Greg and Albert and a few others.
Its now a matter of learning how to weed out the good buyer and the bad buyers. Calling out the bad buyers on the forums (newbies) will help everyone know who we can trust and who are just plain flakes.
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Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby trd4life » Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:49 pm

same thing keeps happening to me. Thanks indiglo. The OG's lstay united.
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Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby SolaraPete » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:13 pm

I agree with pretty much everything mentioned so far in this thread. Most of the parts we need are either discontinued or custom made by members who do it for very little profit. When was the last time an aftermarket company actually made a production part for our platform? All the flakes and "strokes" who window shop with no intention of purchasing just make it less appealing for anyone to want to keep this platform moving forward - whether it be through part-outs or new technology. Bottom line is if you are just interested in what you WANT to do to your solara, make sure your intentions are clear, so the rest of us that will pull the trigger and BUY can get in the front of the line.


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Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby trd4life » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:30 am

Pete is dead on. BTW how is your car coming along?
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Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby SolaraPete » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:43 am

Well, i just need to pick up a new belt, plug wires, lower A/C line, and gauge pod then find time to install the LARGE pile of other 'go fast' parts that ive accumulated...
I'm itchin to get out to the drap strip -too bad we're several states away!
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Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby trd4life » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:18 pm

Pete git'er done
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Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby Midias » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:52 am

Sorry guys it seems this is what happens our cars are old now everyone can afford one it sucks because we got a bunch of kids who got it really cheap and want to mod it but they don't have any real income or ability. Most new owners probably make less than 100 per week and had their parents buy their car for them.
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Re: Cracking down on newbies "claiming" to want to buy parts

Postby sydemoid » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:20 pm

I will chime in, only because the decay in the forum has definitely killed it somewhat.

I have lost interest on posting, or even visiting just because there are some childish people out there. But, I did, and still appreciate all my friends, contacts, and those from who I purchased a lot of my parts from.
Heck, I email, or PM Gabe from time to time, just to make sure I'm headed in the right direction sometimes. He is one of the few 1MZFE guru's, and possibly the one to make a lot happen to this platform. And quite honestly, one of the reasons I've kept my Solara.

Thus, trying to live up to the "Drive faster, Live longer" mantra of this forum. <- and it is in overlooking this mental state, that many have failed the forum.
I agree with all the comments posted in this thread, and I've been flamed before... LOL, it comes with the territory
But, in my attempt to keep the spirit of the forum alive (atleast for me), my car has been transformed into more than a 99 Solara.... but my iteration of what Toyota should have rolled out. And this was done using the forum as a resource.
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