Poll on turbo kit production

[Brian GT PRO]

Hi guys, we're new around here, but have been lurking around for a few weeks. We've had the pleasure of working very close with one of the members here on 3 of his Sol/Cam cars, from suspension, to TRD S/C kit etc etc. We've learned quite a bit about this platform through these 3 cars. He proposed to us, to think about building a production turbo kit that would be 50 state legal for the Gen 1/1.5., 1MZ-FE if we could get some feedback from you guys that would give a convincing argument as to why we should do this, please voice your opinions, that would be great!

Our company GT PRO Performance Tuning Inc has been in business for over 14 years, and have Toyota T-Ten training, as well as we've had many many magazine write ups about our company. We have experience in many platforms, and are interested in possibly getting more involved with this platform.

1. How important would smog legal be to you? 1-10 scale
2. What do you feel is most important in a turbo kit?
3. What sort of HP numbers would make you say "I'll buy that!!"
4. How many of you would sign up if we were to build this??

Your answers are very valuable, so let us know what you think.

[Ilovemylara]

Awesome, first of all, Is this a turbo kit for the 2AZ-FE or the 1MZ-FE? Assuming its for the 1Mz, I would love to see this happen.
answers to your questions:
1. that might be important for some people who live in a state that requires smog tests, luckily where i live its not required.
2.reliability
3.that all depends on whether or not the engine is built, stock internals on a 1mz can only handle up to about 7psi, In that case around 280-300 +/-(total) and if the engine were completly built then about 350-400 (total).
4.I definatly would, and Im quite sure many other members here would as well, the TRD supercharger is becoming more and more scarce and the prices are going up.

[ASG14]

Welcome to the forum. Glad to see you taking interest.

1: 0-I already took my EGR out cause it would not work with the TRD SC on the Gen 3, lol.

2: Reliability, plain and simple. That is the key to success, and the reason most go the SC route.

3: All depends ont he reliability and the suppoting mods included in the kit. there is too many factors for "me" personally to properly answer that question. But if I had to, I'd say about 50-100, which would be around that of the TRD SC.

4: Honestly, I'm more of a SC guy. So I likely would stick with that. But there are many guys here that would rather go Turbo.


Just to add. I think in the end, the biggest factor is going to be the price. Much of the Camry/Solara guys are cheap bastards and have eye's bigger then thier wallet, but there is the core group of us that do what we must.


With that said, I wish you the best of luck if you do this, and look forward to seeing it's completion. The kit (assuming it's for the 1MZ-FE), would also work on the 94-98 ES300, and I think 95-98 Avalon's. I forgot what year started VVT-i. It hink it was was '99 in the Avalon.

~Adam

[Solarizona]

Just to add. I think in the end, the biggest factor is going to be the price. Much of the Camry/Solara guys are cheap bastards and have eye's bigger then thier wallet, but there is the core group of us that do what we must. ~Adam

Haha, I was just thinking the same thing. Price would definitely be the main priority. It seems most people on here have a hard time coughing up $1500-$2000 for the supercharger. If it was a solid turbo setup I'd look at selling my supercharger for it. It'll be interesting to see if it goes anywhere...

[TRDSleeper]

Wow, a bolt on turbo kit that's 50 state legal would be uber fantastic. I have the TRD S/C on my 1MZ-FE but I wouldn't mind trying a turbo at all. It's great if you can make two turbo kits for both the 2AZ-FE and 1MZ-FE. Anyways, here are my answers to your questions:

1. Smog legal woul rank around 8/10 points for me since I live in CA. I prefer not to have to take out the turbo every 2 years for smog check.
2. Some members have said it, reliability is the most important! Especially for a daily driven car like the Camry/Solara. Correct fitment for ease of installation is the other big factor for me.
3. For a turbo kit, I would expect it to increase at least 60-75hp for me to consider it.
4. I would definitely sign up for the turbo kit. Even more so if it has a CARB EO#.

[Camry Racing]

carb legal should be a concern I think. Power shoulbe in the 50-100 range. price I think max should be 2K. and of course this kit should be for the 1mz

[gnegroni]

Even if I don't have a 1MZ, your focus should be to try and keep it CARB legal. That means your will have much more buyers and I doubt that there would be a humongous HP difference between both kits.

[JvR]

Welcome to the forum. Glad to see you taking interest.

1: 0-I already took my EGR out cause it would not work with the TRD SC on the Gen 3, lol.

2: Reliability, plain and simple. That is the key to success, and the reason most go the SC route.

3: All depends ont he reliability and the suppoting mods included in the kit. there is too many factors for "me" personally to properly answer that question. But if I had to, I'd say about 50-100, which would be around that of the TRD SC.

4: Honestly, I'm more of a SC guy. So I likely would stick with that. But there are many guys here that would rather go Turbo.


Just to add. I think in the end, the biggest factor is going to be the price. Much of the Camry/Solara guys are cheap bastards and have eye's bigger then thier wallet, but there is the core group of us that do what we must.


With that said, I wish you the best of luck if you do this, and look forward to seeing it's completion. The kit (assuming it's for the 1MZ-FE), would also work on the 94-98 ES300, and I think 95-98 Avalon's. I forgot what year started VVT-i. It hink it was was '99 in the Avalon.

~Adam

^^x2

I would sell my s/c to buy this...... i can use a inter cooler because heat is the problem with the s/c.

I love the idea with the s/c you can start with stock internals etc... and later on go for the 7psi (if everything is upgraded....fuel system/internals etc.)
I hope that will be possible on the turbo setup????

And a other difficult thing is the A/F setup. There are no out-of-the box apexi etc.. solutions

I hope i still can use my OBX exhaust system

I believe the 1mz-fe is a on discovered platform that i capable to deliver a reliable lot of HP....

Good luck with the idea!
(sorry...my English is not so good, i live in the Netherlands)

[grnsolara]

Welcome to SG.

I agree with the general consensus here almost all-around.

1. 8/10 not necessarily for me, but for the other guys here
2. It's been said already: Reliability
3. 60-75 realistically w/o major modifications to the internals (forged pistons, 500+cc injectors, etc.)
4. I have a s/c Solara, but I'd take a look for my other Solara. Price isn't my huge hangup, but moreso getting what I pay for.

[trd4life]

I think the demand will be very low for a turbo kit as most people will not spend 3k+ on a turbo kit for a car that books for 4k.

[CamryOnBronze]

^ Says the guy building custom motors for people right now

To be brutally honest though, it would be awesome if someone made a complete bolt-on turbo kit for the camry/solara 1mz, but I just do not think the demand is there. There is a reason the aftermarket is so slim for these cars- the demand isnt there. Companies cant afford to put out big expensive products for the solara because no one will ever put the money up- and they will in turn be out a lot of time and money. I see you guys selling 5 kits at the most, and I feel that is being pretty generous.

That being said, here is my input:

1. No smog here, so I don't think that is a big deal. Making a CARB legal kit is going to add a lot to the design cost as well- I would think anyway.

2. A reliable setup, a complete kit with high quality components, and flawless fit and finish. The little things say a lot when it comes to an expensive kit like this- attention to detail is a good thing.

3. I think a reliable 240whp (estimated since dynos are all so different) on a 5 speed would be a solid baseline number.

4. My car is totaled, but if a solid turbo kit was put out I would strongly consider getting another one and buying the kit.

Best of luck to you guys!

[jetbtkng]

well guys brian at gt pro is really serious about this, iv'e been talking to him and i think once the economy is better this could take off, so lets get the ball rolling, i hear everyone here complain no after market performance goodies for our cars, well i'm doing something about it, so get off your assses and lets get this started, by the way brian bob said he would definitely buy a kit, so 1 sold already................

[krawzyazn]

Just to add. I think in the end, the biggest factor is going to be the price. Much of the Camry/Solara guys are cheap bastards and have eye's bigger then thier wallet, but there is the core group of us that do what we must. ~Adam

Haha, I was just thinking the same thing. Price would definitely be the main priority. It seems most people on here have a hard time coughing up $1500-$2000 for the supercharger. If it was a solid turbo setup I'd look at selling my supercharger for it. It'll be interesting to see if it goes anywhere...

I agree with this post about sg being CHEAP BASTARDS LOL

here is one of them!

price I think max should be 2K.

2k for a turbo kit I can sell you a pos turbo kit for 2k

I think the Ideal Price for this is about 3-4k

I know GTPro will not go with the CHEAP parts either its all about QA

[mazen222]

1. How important would smog legal be to you? 1-10 scale
Zero, im from Canada

2. What do you feel is most important in a turbo kit?
Reliability and price... I will not pay more than 2k for anything on my car

3. What sort of HP numbers would make you say "I'll buy that!!"
min 50 to consider, 75-100 is a def yes

4. How many of you would sign up if we were to build this??
If the above are covered, i'm in 100%

What do you expect the price range to be?

[jetbtkng]

any turbo kit on the market rite now is $3500-5000, and the superchargers are going to cost around $3500 or more, because you cant find them, so the more rare it is the more it will cost to buy it, it's called supply and demand, if there is a short suppy, price goes up, your not going to be able to buy a supercharger in a year or 2 for $2000, period, thats if u can find said item...............