Frank's Monster 6psi Manual Dyno Chart 285whp and 270tq

[trd4life]

BBQ Bob's S/C pulley says 2.9" , its a 5.5 pulley. I few of my camrys in the past have read more boost on an accurate gauge than they were supposed to. My 7psi pullied camry used to run 8.5-9psi all the time.

[akora12]

What's up with all of these pulleys running higher boost than spec'd? My 6psi pulley runs nothing higher than a dead 6 all of the time.

[hskrsolara]

My 5.5 from pulleyboys is right on too.

[CamryOnBronze]

Guys- all you need to know here is one word: DYNAPACK. It's a hub dyno, not a roller dyno. And sure, they claim these numbers are adjusted and true to life, etc, but it is widely known that dynapack dynos read higher than traditional roller dynos. The wheels are removed and bolted directly to the two dyno boxes and the power is read from that:



The wheels are not actually on the car when it is tested. Again, they claim the dyno compensates for the lack of wheels, tires, friction, etc- but these dynos read higher than roller dynos in almost every case.

Here is some food for thought- My car made 217 whp on a dynapack dyno with the following setup:

5 speed manual
TRD supercharger
TRD EBC
Stock Pulley
Stock Intake
Stock Headers
Stock Fuel System
Stock Tune (No SAFC installed)
GReddy Catback
Magnecore Wires

On a DYNOJET dyno, which is a roller dyno, my car made 230 whp with the following:

TRD supercharger
TRD EBC
Stock Pulley
Injen Short Ram Intake
Jp Headers, Y pipe, 3" catback
Walbro 190 Fuel Pump
Jim's Fuel Mod
Apexi SAFC (with tune)
Magnecore Wires

So in my case, even after adding fuel mods, a tune, and FULL exhaust and intake, I picked up 13 whp between the two dynos. All I am trying to prove here is that if I had dynoed again on the Dynapack (hub dyno) instead of a Dynojet (roller dyno) the numbers would have read MUCH Higher. I think we all know that those mods would cause for more than a 17whp gain. So obviously, my initial numbers of 217whp on the Dynapack Dyno would have been much lower on the DynoJet.

I have said it before and I will say it thousands more times I'm sure, but every dyno is different- especially all of the different brands and types of dynos. There is no reason to look at someone's numbers here on SG and think that your car is way off if the mods are similar. Let's face it, 98% of the members here who are supercharged have very similar mods or mods that have been done hundreds of times before. We all have a pretty good idea of what these mods make power wise- and until someone does something DRASTICALLY different, all of the numbers will be very comparable.

To the OP, I am not doubting the numbers on your dyno sheet you posted. That is not what this is about. I am simply trying to explain to the people that are confused about why the numbers are so much higher than other cars with comparable mods. Had I seen that this was on a Dynapack dyno in the other thread, I would have posted all of this sooner.

whew.

[CamryOnBronze]

What's up with all of these pulleys running higher boost than spec'd? My 6psi pulley runs nothing higher than a dead 6 all of the time.

That has a lot to do with barometric pressure and altitude. My 6 psi pulley read dead on MOST of the time, including when I made my dyno pass at 254whp, but I did see it spike at 7.5 or 8 at the track once. Granted, these differences could all be caused by the way a boost gauge is reading as well. There is a margin of error involved with pretty much every boost gauge (that would be my guess anyway.) Mine was an electronic defi boost gauge, so I would assume it was pretty accurate- at least compared to an autometer one from autozone or something. I wouldn't expect a huge difference between the two gauges, but we are talking about .5-1 psi differences here- that I could for sure see.

[Akfahad]

well put Damon

[jetbtkng]

im going to take my car to gt pro and run it on there dyno, this will end this bologna, they just re calibrated it about a month ago, and will compare the 2 results and post them, i never expected to hear so much negative feed back, rediculious..................

[Mr_Chunkz]

Hmmm well for me my boost has always read dead on
Even at Church Dyno, where the tune was done.
At WOT the car has never read more than 1/2 psi MORE than what it was rated at and only for a split second when I intially hit WOT.

The negative feedback, Frank, is probably because of the way you have a habit of trying to call out people or talk shi.t on earlier posts..... not because of your numbers.

[KILLA CAM]

Frank, no one was being negative until you called anyone who inquired about your numbers a moron and told them to eat your sh*t. Tracy and Dawgz have continued to be respectful in your threads even with you personally attacking them. Hell, you even threw a jab at Damon.

The people who have been around here for a while know their stuff and have seen multiple set ups from supercharged members on here so when you claim numbers that are out of the ordinary, they are naturally going to inquire about the numbers. They would do the same if you claimed numbers lower than the norm.

The only person who is ego trippin is you, Frank. Solara Guy isn't a competition on who has the fastest Solara/Camry or who spent the most money on their car. We like to help each other out, and learn from one another. So maybe if you kept that in mind, your threads wouldn't have to turn out like this and we could leave the drama out of here.

[TxBmbleBee]

this is random but, what does wot mean???

[akora12]

this is random but, what does wot mean???

Wide Open Throttle

[D-money]

wide open throttle

[squatch197]

Just using this post as an example not personally attacking Tracy.

With that being said---people that hate on everyone should just have the post deleted by the mods. I have rarely posted on here just because of this reason. I've made more horsepower then everyone on here and don't give a damn what any of you have to say. I had all the mods on my car right after they were released and was the first one to wire in an SAFC and post it up on the net in the how to section on CAMRYMAN.ORG. I sent my stock pulley to Pulley Boys to start making pulleys for everyone. I sent my stock exhaust to Megan Racing to start making headers for our cars because of other idiots charging $1,000.00 for the same damn thing.

With every pulley I ever used they all spiked at the top RPM on my car. The stock pulley would spike at 5 the 5psi pulley would spike at 7-the 7psi would spike at 9 or more and the 10psi pulley would spike to 13 or 14 psi on cold nights. All of this on a stock motor using 110-116 octane leaded race fuel. Using the correct fuel and taking off the restrictive cat are the 2 biggest things that you need to do to run good numbers and make real power.

If you don't want to run good numbers and want to keep on hating just keep your cats on and use that crappy 91 octane and you'll never have to worry about having a quick car.

For everyone hating on Frank-take a long walk on a short plank. He only did the mods I told him to do and now we have 2 quicker Camry/Solara in the US. Now you can hate on me instead of him for giving him the not so secret secrets on how to make his car faster. Everyone else just keep on not listening to stay slow.

One of the original Supercharged Camry guys-Peace and I'm done with this-OUT

Doug-AKA the Godfather of FDFR.

Hmmm well for me my boost has always read dead on
Even at Church Dyno, where the tune was done.
At WOT the car has never read more than 1/2 psi MORE than what it was rated at and only for a split second when I intially hit WOT.

The negative feedback, Frank, is probably because of the way you have a habit of trying to call out people or talk shi.t on earlier posts..... not because of your numbers.

[CamryOnBronze]

No one is hating on anyone here. This is an adult discussion. My contribution was not meant to piss anyone off, prove someone wrong or right, become a pissing match, or hurt anyone's feelings. I don't understand why this is turning into such a big deal, I really honestly don't...

No one here cares who has the fastest car, who did what first, or who spent how much money. This board has always been meant for and always delivered meaningful, intelligent, and insightful discussion, and that is how it should be. Don't blow things out of proportion guys, come on... it is NOT a big deal.

Geez... the last two days remind me of 7th grade around here. Everyone straighten their panties out and have a nice big group hug

[---CAMRAZY---]

Looks like a bunch of pussy ass haters.....