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Question on Big Brake kit for those SC'ed

Question on Big Brake kit for those SC'ed

Postby RON » Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:58 pm

Ok...I'm about to *do it*....NARLY SUPRA TT's up front (and larger early ES 300 Rotors rear for balance). What effects on *off the line* acceleration have you experienced with these HUGE SUCKERS :o ??
They weigh about 6lbs more up front (as I recall) than the stockers.

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Postby NRDriver » Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:00 pm

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Postby RON » Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:07 pm

Is that...WTF?

If ya don't what I'm talkin' bout..don't bother. :fadein:
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Postby Ilovemylara » Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:45 pm

I doubt 12 pounds would make any difference on a 3200+ pounds car. maybe like 0.00003 seconds lol
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Postby ASG14 » Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:07 am

^ Thats not the same thing. Ron is talking about "Rotational Mass", not the weight of the car itself.

And I;m sure it makes a difference, but all my friends that have had the brakes, have told me the benefits far outweight the negatives due to the weight.
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Postby RON » Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:40 am

ASG14 wrote:^ Thats not the same thing. Ron is talking about "Rotational Mass", not the weight of the car itself.

And I;m sure it makes a difference, but all my friends that have had the brakes, have told me the benefits far outweight the negatives due to the weight.


Yep..

Anyway, just wanted a *gut* check for those who actually have the mod on their cars (SCed). Well, it won't matter now..I'm going ahead in a week or so. I'll post my impressions here.

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Postby Eye8Pussies » Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:05 am

+5lbs per rotor from when I weighed it


as for difference....I felt absolutely not difference in handling or acceleration...just on braking :D


But of course, on the 5-speed, it shouldn't make much of a difference off the line. In the auto, it'd be a different story. I would say that if my car was still automatic, I would have to think twice about it first, as even after I installed the blower, the car was still not the fastest off the line, and every little bit hurts for rotational mass.

right now, with the 5-speed and plenty of boost, if anything the added rotational mass is a good thing almost :p
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Postby akora12 » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:32 am

Your question is valid. I was concerned about the added unsprung weight before purchasing the kit, but I've noticed absolutely no difference in acceleration since installing it.
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Postby KILLA CAM » Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:37 am

I have the Rotora BBK, but I also have light weight rims so I think they balance each other out. :P

Losing a little on the acceleration side is small fries compared to the benefit of upgrading braking power, especially if you're S/Ced.
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Postby bigbirdSCed » Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:54 am

i never noticed any changes in how my car handles off the line with the ericsol bbk. i did however like being able to stop better. as a rule of thumb...brakes are one of those things where its ok to add weight because its ultimatly the goal to help ya stop better. stopping is more important then acceleration.
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Postby jetbtkng » Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:14 am

made no differance on bbq bobs car, hes got an auto, and his camry is fast and he didnt notice any loss of whoop asss............ :drinking:
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Postby RON » Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:37 pm

Thanks for all the input guys. I can't believe how FUGIN HUGE those TT's are :o . Well, there's no doubt I'm gonna loose a couple tenths off 0-60, but that's no problem. They say for each Lb in rotational mass, it's 4X in equivalent sprung weight...some say it's more. So we've got equivalent added weight of 50-100Lbs...not bad.
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Postby bbq bob » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:22 pm

i'm an 272.2 whp auto with a gabe's BIG BRAKE KIT ( duel piston ) and the weight issue is null & void, on the street their great, and on the track really good, i got my best times with the bbk and other mods i have done. i posted a best lap at 1:38.6, 6 seconds faster than the lst time i was there, with an AUTO. :drinking:
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Postby RON » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:39 pm

bbq bob wrote:i'm an 272.2 whp auto with a gabe's BIG BRAKE KIT ( duel piston ) and the weight issue is null & void, on the street their great, and on the track really good, i got my best times with the bbk and other mods i have done. i posted a best lap at 1:38.6, 6 seconds faster than the lst time i was there, with an AUTO. :drinking:


138 is a great time..congrats! :multi: On the OLD track configuration (which was about 5 sec slower due to narrower track in some turns) I hit 135 with my Porsche 944TURBO and that was SET UP (racing compound tires...etc)! Also, I was a veteran racer and new the track like the back of my hand :wink: .

Again..NICE RUN!
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Postby CamryOnBronze » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:29 am

KILLA CAM wrote:I have the Rotora BBK, but I also have light weight rims so I think they balance each other out. :P

Losing a little on the acceleration side is small fries compared to the benefit of upgrading braking power, especially if you're S/Ced.


Rotoras should actually weigh about the same as the stock setup... and for sure less than the Supra setup. I had them on my solara as well and the 2 piece rotors weighed pretty much the same as the tiny stock rotors.

It does add weight of course, but I don't think the difference would ever be enough to feel with a butt dyno. :lol:
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