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most likely, i think the best route ud wanna follow is to disable the VVTI.

but hey man, GL!

PXLpainter wrote:Sebas - it's great to have you in these forums man!

I know I'm your numbers whore !

Dawgz wrote:most likely, i think the best route ud wanna follow is to disable the VVTI.

but hey man, GL!

Just you to explain WHY the VVT-i is a concern in a turboed setup ??

Sebas007 wrote:Geezzz...At how many PSI the wastegate will be set to acheive 320 whp (around 400hp) ???

I think the rod in the 3MZ are not strong enough to take medium to large boost. I saw once a comparaison of 3MZ rods with other Toyota rods...I think it was the 1MZ and an other one...don't remember. Toyota makes them light and strong enough for the N/A application. I think Jeff is right on this one...I would forge the internals doing any major boost like Stevo wants to do. Anyway with a A/R of .50 turbine I don't think he will be able to reach 400hp. What you guys think about it ?? Also 400hp on the stock tranny = BOOM (with just the CP-e, I felt some hits on the tranny) Especially in the beginning.


First I thought he was aiming to reach the 250whp (around 300+ hp) I think with 4-6 PSI it is reachable...but 400+ hp hurry to see that happen !

The stock tranny will handle a large amount of power no problem at all, i put close to 500 Whp with no problem at all also i saw MR2 (that was featured in sport compact car magazine) with 1mz put 470 WHP on stock tranny with no problem but as you said the problem will be with the stock internals the maximum will be 350 whp and you need to take care for cooling matter (oil cooler, intercooler and water injection) and also a proper tuning is needed and if C16 fuel is used it will be more safe.
So for stock internals 7 to 10 psi but above 10 psi with stock internals the problems will start.

Hey guys its great to have all the support and i thank you guys for running all the numbers
the turbo isnt the only thing that will contribute to the added horsepower i will be will be doing some engine work and take into consideration i have a great tuner that will be doing all the work to get maximum performance out of my setup
the excepted date of disassemble is monday and the finished product we are hoping to complete on march 3 2008

I'd be more worried about maximum efficiency than max power. However they do tend to go hand in hand.

Just be careful. Boost is like crack. You just try it at first, but then you'll want more.

dawgs

most likely, i think the best route ud wanna follow is to disable the VVTI.


why would he disable this set up there are alot of VVT-i running high boost monters

STEVO wrote:...the excepted date of disassemble is monday and the finished product we are hoping to complete on march 3 2008

You mean end of March isn't it ??

Time travel is a wonderful thing. So it's all done now? Pics!

You can get pics of it next to itself.

still can not wait for this setup to complete, but i hope that everything works out well.

with all the guru's of our engine on this site i hope he takes into consideration the valuable info given in this thread

how many will follow his footsteps if he pulls this turbo setup off.

i will be one, but the most amount of boost i will want is 8 or 9 psi, i want my car to run and run well for a good amount of time, but who else?

Any update on this yet ???

hksboost wrote:

Sebas007 wrote:Geezzz...At how many PSI the wastegate will be set to acheive 320 whp (around 400hp) ???

I think the rod in the 3MZ are not strong enough to take medium to large boost. I saw once a comparaison of 3MZ rods with other Toyota rods...I think it was the 1MZ and an other one...don't remember. Toyota makes them light and strong enough for the N/A application. I think Jeff is right on this one...I would forge the internals doing any major boost like Stevo wants to do. Anyway with a A/R of .50 turbine I don't think he will be able to reach 400hp. What you guys think about it ?? Also 400hp on the stock tranny = BOOM (with just the CP-e, I felt some hits on the tranny) Especially in the beginning.


First I thought he was aiming to reach the 250whp (around 300+ hp) I think with 4-6 PSI it is reachable...but 400+ hp hurry to see that happen !

The stock tranny will handle a large amount of power no problem at all, i put close to 500 Whp with no problem at all also i saw MR2 (that was featured in sport compact car magazine) with 1mz put 470 WHP on stock tranny with no problem but as you said the problem will be with the stock internals the maximum will be 350 whp and you need to take care for cooling matter (oil cooler, intercooler and water injection) and also a proper tuning is needed and if C16 fuel is used it will be more safe.
So for stock internals 7 to 10 psi but above 10 psi with stock internals the problems will start.

Auto or manual?

Sebas007 wrote:Any update on this yet ???

im gonna let stevo update the thread since it's his car lol

I hope this works out! It will be great to see you pull it all together.

I'm betting on more like lower 300's without some mechanical work. Sounds like you may do that. If it's inclusive of rods and such, I think the number "could" support high 300's or, in extreme cases, 400'ish, but that is a REALLY sick investment for a 'lara! lol!

You should be capable of 300 range with 10psi without any major issues on the basic 'lara platform, I'd think... but you would have to push around 50% more boost (in my opinion) to get the bigger number... and that's gonna introduce a lot more prerequisite preparation to endure.

I would further venture to say there is GOOD 10psi... and then there is MEDIOCRE 10psi...

...done RIGHT... you'd see the numbers come and have a strong ride... but done WRONG...

You'd be polishing your shade-tree-mechanic skills more often than actually driving the thing around in all it's glory!

I'm thinking you'd be pushing hard to pull 400 out of 15psi. I can't hardly imagine you making that much boost without stuff breaking... considering these things aren't made like the BOAT ANCHOR motors that power the straight sixes... which are fairly strong if you fix the head gasket and go to stud and nuts.

PS: Sebas, you are THE MAN! (Hurry up and BOOST already... )

GOOD LUCK with this!!!

-crisp

Dawgz wrote:

hksboost wrote:

Sebas007 wrote:Geezzz...At how many PSI the wastegate will be set to acheive 320 whp (around 400hp) ???

I think the rod in the 3MZ are not strong enough to take medium to large boost. I saw once a comparaison of 3MZ rods with other Toyota rods...I think it was the 1MZ and an other one...don't remember. Toyota makes them light and strong enough for the N/A application. I think Jeff is right on this one...I would forge the internals doing any major boost like Stevo wants to do. Anyway with a A/R of .50 turbine I don't think he will be able to reach 400hp. What you guys think about it ?? Also 400hp on the stock tranny = BOOM (with just the CP-e, I felt some hits on the tranny) Especially in the beginning.


First I thought he was aiming to reach the 250whp (around 300+ hp) I think with 4-6 PSI it is reachable...but 400+ hp hurry to see that happen !

The stock tranny will handle a large amount of power no problem at all, i put close to 500 Whp with no problem at all also i saw MR2 (that was featured in sport compact car magazine) with 1mz put 470 WHP on stock tranny with no problem but as you said the problem will be with the stock internals the maximum will be 350 whp and you need to take care for cooling matter (oil cooler, intercooler and water injection) and also a proper tuning is needed and if C16 fuel is used it will be more safe.
So for stock internals 7 to 10 psi but above 10 psi with stock internals the problems will start.

Auto or manual?

Manual