UPFD Cold Air Extension Pipes***PLEASE READ***

[Dawgz]

how much for the combo!?

[JoeB]

RJ, thanks for visiting us and for giving us the good news that the part will be available through dealers. Many people wanted to get this part but had trouble with delivery. Personally, I think what would be really cool is if you sold the design and mfg rights to Injen as a complete CAI. This extension is designed as an extension to the Injen short-ram to make it a true CAI. The only CAI available for the gen-1 Solara with 1MZ-FE. It was originally designed by one of our members "Danny" and developed by UPFD. For those of you not familiar with UPFD, you need to read some of the popular magazines. They are NOT like XERD! They have done a lot of very high profile work! The intake extension is very high quality and a very good fit. It gives a TRUE cold air application by moving the intake to the low front of the vehicle so the air comes in before the heat of the engine compartment. RJ, after Danny worked out the details of the initial design, I worked with Matt to help get this started in the Solara community. I have been using the extension since it was first available and couldn't imagine not having it now.

Sorry RJ, now for the truth syrum. For those of you (Steve) that are NA, I think the improvement will be negligeable (only a guess). Reality is, whenever you are able to bring colder air in, the air is denser (more burnable O2 per volume) . Meaning you can add more fuel for the propper mixture making more power. The stock airbox already takes air from that location (front left fender well). The problem is, it is somewhat restricted by the filter, housing and a plastic container inside the fender used to muffle the intake sound. Simply using a high flow filter like K&N would allow more air to get in but I think this setup would allow a little more air to come in still. In reality though without a sc forcing the air, the gains will be negligeable. This is what would mainly account for the gains RJ described and I think over stock are probable. 8-10 hp is respectable for a $125 bolt on. I would say the gains will depend on the weather. In cold weather, very small gains. In hot weather, 8-10hp is very conceivable. It is more essential in an sc application, you need the air to come in as cold as possible since the sc heats the air in the process of compressing it. For those that are NA, I'd consider it. For those that are supercharged, it's a no-brainer. A good explanation of how heat effects the intake can be read at Kenne Bell's site in this publication http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/general-info/SC_efficiency.pdf. It isn't like adding the CAI will make it a race car but the benifits are undeniable and UPFD does great work!

I appologise, I don't know what all applications people have been able to get this part working in. It was developed for a gen-1 Solara with a 1MZ-FE. If you got it working in another application, maybe chime in and help out others. -JoeB

[cdeez]

JoeB, your the man...

[WortownSolara]

i seriously would feel lost without my CAE. I jumped dramitcally in power when i switched out my stock air box to the Cold air setup.

[2002greenhornet]

Joe,

Thanks for that. Coincidentally, I just call Carlos, Jr. before logging on to the forum today. He said the same thing. It's not worth it on a NA car. He said, realistically, 2-3HP gain for me, which is basically not noticeable. I already have a high-flow filter (K&N), so a CAI is unnecessary.

However, since I DO plan on getting a SC soon, I think I'll get a CAI kit and store it for later, since the prices are the lowest they're likely to be. One other question for those that have the extension--maybe not you, Joe, because I don't think you drive the RedKnight in the rain--is there danger of sucking up water if you get caught in a storm? I usually drive my old pickup when the weather's bad, but now and then I do drive the Solara in the rain.

RJ - Do you take PayPal?

[Astro]

is there danger of sucking up water if you get caught in a storm? I usually drive my old pickup when the weather's bad, but now and then I do drive the Solara in the rain.

I haven't had any problems and I've had it about a year. Even through the recent storms we had here in Cali. If you notice in my pic, I don't have the plastic splash shields under the front side of the car and the wheel well. All I know is that you literally have to get the filter submerged in water to actually get into problems. So, stay away from really deep puddles that you know will submerge the filter.
I'd get it NA or S/C!

*click on pic for more*

[Fletch]

I don't doubt it is a quality piece that will reduces intake bottle necks. However, it is relatively cool or cold almost 1/2 the year in Northern Indiana, I've already removed the upper and lower intake resonators and currently using a K&N drop in.

Don't know if it is worth $300+ for the short ram & extension in my situation.

[jazzlara]

I don't doubt it is a quality piece that will reduces intake bottle necks. However, it is relatively cool or cold almost 1/2 the year in Northern Indiana, I've already removed the upper and lower intake resonators and currently using a K&N drop in.

Don't know if it is worth $300+ for the short ram & extension in my situation.

Im going to fabricate my short ram and make my own extension and save about $100.

[arch.HI]

BLACK POWDER COATED PIPES WILL BE COMMING IN APRIL!!!

I'm interested in a black powder coated pipe, but I guess I gotta wait till April.

[RJ@UPFD]

Yo Fellas, Hit me up thru email on the local pick up all you will save is about 10.00 the cost of shipping. I have puit the shipping cost into the part for a limited time. You can also call me at 714-890-5153 to order.

RJ

[JoeB]

Joe,

Thanks for that. Coincidentally, I just call Carlos, Jr. before logging on to the forum today. He said the same thing. It's not worth it on a NA car. He said, realistically, 2-3HP gain for me, which is basically not noticeable. I already have a high-flow filter (K&N), so a CAI is unnecessary.

However, since I DO plan on getting a SC soon, I think I'll get a CAI kit and store it for later, since the prices are the lowest they're likely to be. One other question for those that have the extension--maybe not you, Joe, because I don't think you drive the RedKnight in the rain--is there danger of sucking up water if you get caught in a storm? I usually drive my old pickup when the weather's bad, but now and then I do drive the Solara in the rain.

RJ - Do you take PayPal?

Steve, funny you should ask about the water, many have. Not only am I not worried about getting water in the intake, I spray water in there on purpose (ERL Aquamist 2d water injection system). I have had to drive the RedKnight in heavy rain before and had no problems.

For NA guys that a cheap quick fix, I would recommend a TRD or K&N filter in the stock air box and take out the baffles (if you don't mind a little extra sucking noise). If you have the money, the extension is very nice though.

jazzlara, others have done DIY extensions. There are many things to consider like diameter, bends securing the tube with engine movement. All of those issues were worked out by Danny when he designed this extension and perfected by UPFD. The process was about 2 years.-JoeB

[RJ@UPFD]

BLACK POWDER COATED PIPES WILL BE COMMING IN APRIL!!!

I'm interested in a black powder coated pipe, but I guess I gotta wait till April.

If I can get like 10 or more I will get the powderd coated and sent out. But the price for the black will be 125.00 shipped. I would like to have the orderes in by the end of the month. If they come in sooner i will get them out right away.

Thanks
RJ@UPFD.com

[RJ@UPFD]

RJ, thanks for visiting us and for giving us the good news that the part will be available through dealers. Many people wanted to get this part but had trouble with delivery. Personally, I think what would be really cool is if you sold the design and mfg rights to Injen as a complete CAI. This extension is designed as an extension to the Injen short-ram to make it a true CAI. The only CAI available for the gen-1 Solara with 1MZ-FE. It was originally designed by one of our members "Danny" and developed by UPFD. For those of you not familiar with UPFD, you need to read some of the popular magazines. They are NOT like XERD! They have done a lot of very high profile work! The intake extension is very high quality and a very good fit. It gives a TRUE cold air application by moving the intake to the low front of the vehicle so the air comes in before the heat of the engine compartment. RJ, after Danny worked out the details of the initial design, I worked with Matt to help get this started in the Solara community. I have been using the extension since it was first available and couldn't imagine not having it now.

Sorry RJ, now for the truth syrum. For those of you (Steve) that are NA, I think the improvement will be negligeable (only a guess). Reality is, whenever you are able to bring colder air in, the air is denser (more burnable O2 per volume) . Meaning you can add more fuel for the propper mixture making more power. The stock airbox already takes air from that location (front left fender well). The problem is, it is somewhat restricted by the filter, housing and a plastic container inside the fender used to muffle the intake sound. Simply using a high flow filter like K&N would allow more air to get in but I think this setup would allow a little more air to come in still. In reality though without a sc forcing the air, the gains will be negligeable. This is what would mainly account for the gains RJ described and I think over stock are probable. 8-10 hp is respectable for a $125 bolt on. I would say the gains will depend on the weather. In cold weather, very small gains. In hot weather, 8-10hp is very conceivable. It is more essential in an sc application, you need the air to come in as cold as possible since the sc heats the air in the process of compressing it. For those that are NA, I'd consider it. For those that are supercharged, it's a no-brainer. A good explanation of how heat effects the intake can be read at Kenne Bell's site in this publication http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/general-info/SC_efficiency.pdf. It isn't like adding the CAI will make it a race car but the benifits are undeniable and UPFD does great work!

I appologise, I don't know what all applications people have been able to get this part working in. It was developed for a gen-1 Solara with a 1MZ-FE. If you got it working in another application, maybe chime in and help out others. -JoeB

THANKS!!! We will have Dyno Results up in a few weeks. I am wondering myself. We did make the CAE for Danny and his S/C Solara. As for Injen not making the extension I guess one would have to ask why they did not make a full CAI?And you gave them the answer. And I agree with you, to get the maxx benifit of the cold air intake on an N/A car (And so you know N/A = Never Ending Lag..LOL)
I would run and AFC or some other piggy back system. Thanks again for the input.

As for future application for the Gen 2 we are looking for cars in So Cal for test fittment. If you have a Gen 2 please call me.

Thanks
RJ

[JoeB]

Thanks RJ, we love the work you guys do. We get no attention or respect from the aftermarket industry in general. Matt had mentioned a few more projects you guys might persue for our car. If you have any news for us, please come by and let us know. Here's one that would and any hp but I would REALLY love to see, a nice looking cover to replace the stock cover in the center of the 1MZ-FE V6. Preferrably polished, seems like it would be very easy to do. -JoeB

[Alex(AUS)]

On the subject of intakes ... wouldn’t it be better to use a plastic pipe as opposed to a steel/alloy one in order to reduce heat? I have noticed that steel/alloy based components in the engine bay tend to be much hotter than plastic ones (obviously). Why wouldn’t this apply to the intake? It should reduce the air temperature entering the s/c if you use plastic (like factory).

Also, what is the diameter of the Injen/UPFD pipe?

Alex