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Water/Meth Injection System

Water/Meth Injection System

Postby Paladin06Greg » Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:18 pm

Things are going much better then ever expected. We are making unreal power with this system. More tomorrow.
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Postby DatSRBoi » Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:35 pm

Unreal? Is this the thing that shoots cold air to cool down the Incoming air and raises HP?
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Postby Paladin06Greg » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:07 pm

No sir. See here.

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DatSRBoi wrote:Unreal? Is this the thing that shoots cold air to cool down the Incoming air and raises HP?
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Postby shidosha01 » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:13 pm

Nice! I heard about how everything is going. I was hoping to be there for the dyno. Good luck! 8)
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Postby Paladin06Greg » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:24 pm

Thank you sir. I hope we have yet another first for the Solara, Toyota sport compact community. I think we will get attention on this one.


shidosha01 wrote:Nice! I heard about how everything is going. I was hoping to be there for the dyno. Good luck! 8)
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Postby thakidd » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:31 pm

so what are the dyno numbers now........any 1/4 mile times
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Postby Astro » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:34 pm

Awesome news! Can't wait to hear more... :D
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Postby Paladin06Greg » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:13 pm

We will dyno when all the important work is done. The dyno is in reality for bragging rights and fine-tuning. The real work is done with road tuning and using all the ODB II sensor data. My mechanic told me today that he now realizes he has been mislead for many years as many of us have. Those people who say all they need is dyno data to tune cars such as ours are living in the past and we have been wasting our money. Keep in mind our cars are computer (OBD II Sensor) controlled, live on the street and not on the dyno and the OBD II system rules that world. How can you ignore it and say we have tuned the car properly without full use and understanding of that data. No way!

I have been enlighten to understand, that real performance is gained when you tune in the area where you daily drive/race. You can lean a motor out to get great looking numbers on a dyno but on the street, it can kill your car and your opportunity to win.

What about the fuel trims, knock sensing, timing advance, timing retard, misfiring, IAT, EGT, MAF values and the list goes on. Most if not all of this critical, data is not used or available during your average dyno-tune. Another very important note, engine management of today’s engines are time based, this means it needs time to relearn/adjust so you cannot see ASAP changes when used on a dyno.

I am very excited about what I have learned over the past couple weeks. I have invested considerable money in this venture and I will share the result with all of you, as this is another Solara first. I have also invested in a Dell Latitude laptop computer and an EASE OBDII Scanner/Data Logger http://www.obd2.com/ solely to tune and maintain my Solara. No more guessing. It is time to get real...

thakidd wrote:so what are the dyno numbers now........any 1/4 mile times
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Postby SpeedSTARs » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:34 pm

^^^ :D Word...

I did the Dyno tuning only to get rid of that nasty CEL (just from running to lean). Your absolutly right about the timing that needs to be tuned to fully bring the engine to its full potential... :wink:
I'm really geeked to hear you outcome Greg. :P All I can say is that it's one bad azz machine you got there. A true inspiration Bro :wink: :angel:
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Postby Paladin06Greg » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:42 pm

I will share all the good and bad details when all is said and done.

SpeedSTARs wrote:^^^ :D Word...

I did the Dyno tuning only to get rid of that nasty CEL (just from running to lean). Your absolutly right about the timing that needs to be tuned to fully bring the engine to its full potential... :wink:
I'm really geeked to hear you outcome Greg. :P All I can say is that it's one bad azz machine you got there. A true inspiration Bro :wink: :angel:
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Postby jhenty » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:22 pm

is it worth it for an NA engine, and does it harm the engine at all?
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Postby djsaltine » Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:59 pm

I'm very suprised that you ended up getting the h20/meth injection set-up. All I hear are terrible things about methanol fueled cars i.e. no hp gains, massive damage to the internals, emission problems...

I work at a gasoline and distilate storage facility in the metro Atlanta area and there's been an on going battle to stop the introduction of methanol fuels to the area.
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Postby Paladin06Greg » Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:17 pm

The gasoline companies are bigger criminals then the tobacco industry. Do some homework and you will see what I mean. FACT GM had the technology to introduce fuel injection in American made cars in the late 60's early 70's. The big oil companies convinced them and our government it was not a safe system for public use. It was too damn efficient which meant less fuel consumption and less profit, no more, no less..


djsaltine wrote:I'm very suprised that you ended up getting the h20/meth injection set-up. All I hear are terrible things about methanol fueled cars i.e. no hp gains, massive damage to the internals, emission problems...

I work at a gasoline and distilate storage facility in the metro Atlanta area and there's been an on going battle to stop the introduction of methanol fuels to the area.
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Postby frohboy33 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:30 pm

aren't you flittering with danger on this project? not worried about wrecking your motor at all? I have heard mixed things about h20/meth injection systems. Hope it goes well for you.
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Postby Paladin06Greg » Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:43 pm

It is much SAFER then NOS and did I mention, less weight and less expensive!! Go do some research and get the facts. I didn't do NOS for the reasons you mentioned. Check the facts not the rumors..

frohboy33 wrote:aren't you flittering with danger on this project? not worried about wrecking your motor at all? I have heard mixed things about h20/meth injection systems. Hope it goes well for you.
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