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Just bought real HID system!!!

Postby SKYravefever » Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:33 am

Most HID systems on the market nowadays are only for low-beams. Jay, if I recall correctly, picked up the ballasts and capsules off ebay from an IS300, which, similar to the CL, uses halogen high and HID low. Therefore, if you intend to use the bulbs from the CL for an H4 application, you will lose your high beam function, and may not be able to pass inspection.
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Postby Jay » Mon Oct 21, 2002 11:33 am

Yeah, I lost my high beam. But now there's HID bulbs that has both high and low beams... Of course they are more expensive...
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Postby SKYravefever » Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:17 pm

Hey Jay, have you heard anything about how those moveable shields perform for H4 applications? Bellof makes them (but $$) and I think Autolamps sells them too. Any thoughts on those?
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Postby Blaze » Mon Oct 21, 2002 4:56 pm

for who ever was looking for hi/low hids they are on that site
H4 Hylow Xenon HID Headlamp conversion kit - $600.00 H4 Hylow Kit

H4 Hylow 6000K Xenon HID Headlamp conversion kit - $735.00 H4 Hylow Kit

http://www.autolamps-online.com/gasdisc ... 20lamp.htm

i guess 600 isnt bad for both high and low hids

btw how do real hid systems work for high and lows? seperate bulbs?
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Postby Yanks0114 » Mon Oct 21, 2002 5:24 pm

real Hid kits like those found on BMW's and Acura's have xenon low beam and a halogen hi beam. Separate bulbs. The hid upgrade kits for our car have one bulb which is just low beams
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Postby Blaze » Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:47 pm

ya thats what i figured, and it has that part that moves around the bulb
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Postby SKYravefever » Tue Oct 22, 2002 12:56 am

yanks0114 wrote:real Hid kits like those found on BMW's and Acura's have xenon low beam and a halogen hi beam. Separate bulbs. The hid upgrade kits for our car have one bulb which is just low beams


Porsche and VW has bi-xenon systems that has a servo motor which allows light from the HID capsule to hit the high-beam part of the headlamp, thus their cars have xenon high and low beam.

It wouldn't be a good idea to have a separate HID system for the high and low because when you need to quickly flash someone with the high beam, the ballast does not power quick enough for the HID capsule to light up that fast for a flash. And also, on the second flash, the hot-restrike is definately not good for the HID system. Therefore, Porsche and VW has a servo motor mechanism for their bi-xenon systems.
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Postby Yanks0114 » Tue Oct 22, 2002 12:14 pm

your point is well taken but MOST xenons are low beam with a halogen high beam. Also the reason the xenons take a few seconds to start up is because they need to warm up to their appropriate color temperature, once they are going i'd assume that the just from low-beam to hi-beam wouldnt be that bad.

I'm just debating whether its worth it to get a HID kit because its a pain in the ass to pass through inspection.

Porsche and VW has bi-xenon systems that has a servo motor which allows light from the HID capsule to hit the high-beam part of the headlamp, thus their cars have xenon high and low beam.

It wouldn't be a good idea to have a separate HID system for the high and low because when you need to quickly flash someone with the high beam, the ballast does not power quick enough for the HID capsule to light up that fast for a flash. And also, on the second flash, the hot-restrike is definately not good for the HID system. Therefore, Porsche and VW has a servo motor mechanism for their bi-xenon systems.
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Postby SKYravefever » Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:55 pm

yanks0114 wrote:your point is well taken but MOST xenons are low beam with a halogen high beam. Also the reason the xenons take a few seconds to start up is because they need to warm up to their appropriate color temperature, once they are going i'd assume that the just from low-beam to hi-beam wouldnt be that bad.

I'm just debating whether its worth it to get a HID kit because its a pain in the butt to pass through inspection.


I wouldn't do it because of inspection. Would you be able to get by by installing auxillary lights?
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Postby Yanks0114 » Tue Oct 22, 2002 4:24 pm

technically no, New Jersey is quite possibly the worst state for owning a hooked up car. If you dont crack a rim or your body kit from the pot holes, then you can come home and look at your insane insurance bill. According to NJ law you must have Low and Hi beam coming from basically the same level - like in a horizontal line. Also we aren't allowed to tint out front windows and windshield and many other amazingly dumb things
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Postby SKYravefever » Tue Oct 22, 2002 7:06 pm

We can't tint front windows here in California either, so us Californians can't get our game on in the backseat. :wink: How about installing auxillary lights in the center grill. That'll be quite a project, but it'll be on the same level! :D
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Postby Yanks0114 » Tue Oct 22, 2002 7:32 pm

lol, New Jersey is still worse. Rear tint is regulated to 35% I think the only way i'd get HIDs would be if i got a really good price, so i'll just keep my eyes open. I need a used supercharger instead of HIDs
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Postby Blaze » Wed Oct 23, 2002 8:32 am

anyone seen these, http://www.fet-usa.com/products/zeta.html
plug and play hid kit, supposadly mad cheap too

they cost $325, ill try to convince my mom i need better lighting cuz im blind :P

http://www.autogeek.net/zetheadligen.html

and you can use ur stock bulbs, since i orderd the philips ones i might be able to use those
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Postby droomyster » Wed Oct 23, 2002 8:45 am

Blaze wrote:anyone seen these, http://www.fet-usa.com/products/zeta.html
plug and play hid kit, supposadly mad cheap too

they cost $325, ill try to convince my mom i need better lighting cuz im blind :P

http://www.autogeek.net/zetheadligen.html

and you can use ur stock bulbs, since i orderd the philips ones i might be able to use those


$100 less than the "good" HIDs which take away your high beam. from what i saw, the HIDs that have high and low beams cost around $700-800. i would like to hear what someone who has installed these have to say.
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Postby Blaze » Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:15 pm

these are fake hids btw, just amplified bulbs
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