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5-speed auto shifting

5-speed auto shifting

Postby trdpower04 » Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:14 am

Sometimes when I am in sequential mode and I make the 1-2 shift, it isn't a good, crisp shift. It takes a while, almost like it is slipping. I am gonna have the dealer check it out, but I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem? It goes to the shop 8/12, so I'll keep ya posted if they find anything.
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Postby gogeta » Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:30 am

sounds like your not shifting at the right rpm.....when i first got mine had the same problem but as i learned to shift properly its smoother than the straight auto....
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Postby mtodde » Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:39 am

I noticed some issues too during the first 1000 miles. They have since disappeared. I don't know how many miles you have so this may or may not apply. The whole car felt different around the 1000 mile mark. I really only used the sequential shifting 5 or 6 times during the 1st 1000 miles. Normally I shift to sport mode unless I'm on the highway.
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Postby TW85 » Sun Aug 08, 2004 9:43 am

It depends at what point you shift to a higher gear. I don't drive in the sport shift mode very often but I did yesterday and the shifts were very quick and crisp compared to the auto mode. I have also driven in sport shift where the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts were delayed. You just have to learn at what point you will get the quickest gear change.
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Postby jesse789 » Sun Aug 08, 2004 7:53 pm

i get the same thing... just not shifting right. if ur rev'ed too high and not going fast enuf thats when i get it the most. alot of the time i gun it a lil too much and then i'm accel'ing a lil too fast and i let my foot ease a bunch and then it just shift funny getting into 2nd.
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Postby mattyboyl » Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:25 am

I agree with everyone. I especially remember mtoddle's situation because it wasn't crisp <1000 mile mark. Also, in regards to it not shifting exactly when you do, well that is do to the cpu. If you are giving it a good amount of throttle and shift at 3K, the cpu will make a shift around 4-4.5K due to a more agrgressive throttle response (e.g. merging onto a highway, gaining speed). now, if you are just cruising, then it should shift at around the same time you shifted, as long as you are shifting at the proper rpms.
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Postby xodessitx » Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:31 pm

what are the appropriate rpm's that you should shift up. also when i shift down the car like jerks a lil. when should you shift down, i mean how do you know when it is time to do so.
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Postby slingshot » Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:36 pm

If I'm manually shifting the auto, I shift above 4000 rpms. I'm not looking to be precise on the best possible shift points. I'm just looking to try to maximize running in each gear but not being precise. Shifting below that is a waste if you want to accelerate quickly.
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Postby mtodde » Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:39 pm

slingshot wrote:If I'm manually shifting the auto, I shift above 4000 rpms. I'm not looking to be precise on the best possible shift points. I'm just looking to try to maximize running in each gear but not being precise. Shifting below that is a waste if you want to accelerate quickly.


I agree. When I'm in sequential mode I'm driving for fun, not gas mileage or what is easiest on the car.
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Postby mattyboyl » Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:12 am

Shifting into 1st while the car is above 5mph will give you that jerking motion. When in doubt, leave it in 2nd until the car comes to a complete stop. Since we can't put it in neutral like with a standard transmission, 2nd gear is fine. 1st gear is just to get enough torque to get the car moving. You'll notice the rpms rise very quickly from 1st to 2nd.
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Postby slingshot » Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:30 am

mattyboyl wrote:Shifting into 1st while the car is above 5mph will give you that jerking motion. When in doubt, leave it in 2nd until the car comes to a complete stop. Since we can't put it in neutral like with a standard transmission, 2nd gear is fine. 1st gear is just to get enough torque to get the car moving. You'll notice the rpms rise very quickly from 1st to 2nd.


Agreed. You can even start the car moving while in second gear. The engine is powerful enough for that. If I do start in first, I quickly shift to second.
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Postby xodessitx » Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:09 am

what are the speeds that you should look out for when you are shifting gears down?
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Postby slingshot » Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:36 am

xodessitx wrote:what are the speeds that you should look out for when you are shifting gears down?


Go more by RPM's when shifting down just like you do when shifting up. Manual shifting is mainly a process of glancing at the RPM's all the time or getting used to the engine sound to determine shifting points. I wouldn't downshift above 3000 RPM's for any gear. Don't even bother looking at speeds.
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Postby TW85 » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:14 am

It is best to shift down to first after coming to a complete stop. You will feel the car jerk if you shift to first while still moving unless you are going very slow (<5 mph).

You shift according to the RPM, not speed. Eventually you will learn at what point to shift simply by how the engine sounds. Sequential mode is for more spirited driving (faster acceleration, not speeding :P ) and you shift accordingly.

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The Solara's sequential transmission is not set up to start out in the gear selected. If the dash readout says "2" then the transmission will start out in first gear and automatically shift to second.
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Postby slingshot » Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:20 pm

TW85 wrote:The Solara's sequential transmission is not set up to start out in the gear selected. If the dash readout says "2" then the transmission will start out in first gear and automatically shift to second.


If so, then why wouldn't I feel an upshift when it goes from 1st to 2nd? When at a stop I have it at 2nd and I accelerate I feel no transition from 1 to 2. I also don't see the RPM's quickly climbing like it would if I had it set to 1st.
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