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anyone upgrade the cams in their sle

anyone upgrade the cams in their sle

Postby pervo » Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:35 pm

buying shocks and lowering springs...
dont want to add a cold air intake or cat back...
cam upgrades seems like the best choice for me (?)
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Re: anyone upgrade the cams in their sle

Postby indiglosolara » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:30 pm

pervo wrote:buying shocks and lowering springs...
dont want to add a cold air intake or cat back...
cam upgrades seems like the best choice for me (?)



we dont have shocks... its Struts...

From what i last heard there isn't any aftermarket Cam's for our cars. Why would you wanna change the cam's for if you not looking to change your intake or exhaust.

I think the Cam's wouldn't do too much performance and wouldn't be worth it IMO.
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Postby pervo » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:54 pm

whats difference between shocks and struts- always thought they were one and the same?

ive always been told that intakes and exausts just sound fast and dont realy do much at all
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Postby Astro » Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:24 am

pervo wrote:ive always been told that intakes and exausts just sound fast and dont realy do much at all


ARE YOU SERIOUS???? :roll:
I don't know who you've been talking to, but they aren't very smart. If they don't do much then why do ALL race cars change them? The first thing you want to do is change your intake and exhaust if you want any power gains.

I hope you don't get flamed too much now.... :lol:
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Postby pervo » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:23 am

Astro wrote:
pervo wrote:ive always been told that intakes and exausts just sound fast and dont realy do much at all


ARE YOU SERIOUS???? :roll:
I don't know who you've been talking to, but they aren't very smart. If they don't do much then why do ALL race cars change them? The first thing you want to do is change your intake and exhaust if you want any power gains.

I hope you don't get flamed too much now.... :lol:


a ram intake would probably take in HOTTER air... but sure sound ricey :roll:
well im not putting in a cold air intake because its my dayly driver and the weather is crappy hear
... exausts... i know you will most likely loose low end torque and many dont do jack... dont want a fart cannon anyways... comparing a solara to a race car is a bit of a stretch isnt it?


so nobody on here changed the cam timing, upgraded ignition coils/ wires ... anything?
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Postby Mole » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:37 am

you have some stubborn views.

anywho, it depends on what type of exhaust you deal with.

some free up high end, however you do lose some low end. imho, its ok to lose a little low end. toyota motors are torque anyway.

others may give you more low end.

if an engine is modded fairly heavily, then the less restrictions means more power to deliver.

toyota (1mz) timming is not meant to be tinkered with. (or no one has done enough research to know the odds and ends of doing so.)

like i said earlier in another post, what are you aiming towards?
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Postby Astro » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:52 am

I wonder if the guys with older the older Camrys (w/1mz) have done it.
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Postby pervo » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:00 am

Mole wrote:you have some stubborn views.

anywho, it depends on what type of exhaust you deal with.

some free up high end, however you do lose some low end. imho, its ok to lose a little low end. toyota motors are torque anyway.

others may give you more low end.

if an engine is modded fairly heavily, then the less restrictions means more power to deliver.

toyota (1mz) timming is not meant to be tinkered with. (or no one has done enough research to know the odds and ends of doing so.)

like i said earlier in another post, what are you aiming towards?



more power... id like to retain stock look (and sound)- my stuborn views stem from wanting to keep the look stock as not to invite thieves (the smashed windows are getting old) and realizing that intakes and exausts are not the best upgrade considering everything else is stock
if i had the cash id just throw in a super charger but untill then im open to just about any upgrade

..so cam gears are out :(
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Postby Mole » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:06 am

try nitrous.

thats the easiest, quietest method i can think of.

as for longevity or safety on the engine? I can not comment on that.
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Postby pervo » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:10 am

Mole wrote:try nitrous.

thats the easiest, quietest method i can think of.

as for longevity or safety on the engine? I can not comment on that.

lol

what about the ignition coils and wires w/capacitors.. probably not too popular- worthwile though?

i have a feeling by tommorow you guys are gonna have successfuly convinced me to get a cold air intake and a cat back :evilbat:
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Postby JoeB » Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:57 am

Years ago, shortly after the Solara was released, someone (forget who) like Car & Driver evaluated the Solara and praised the performance. The only real ding was on the breathing. They said it seemed to be restricted and they felt that would be the first place to look for improvements. I agree and think it is too. The intake is easy, open that sucker up! Whether you go for a CAI or simply remove the intake resonators and put in a high flow filter, do something to get some air in there.

Exhaust is a little different. As Mole said, some exhausts will add low end but I'm very sure that is not the one you want. Others will add high end at the sacrifice of a little low end. Those will open the flow up and be more of a benefit. As you do other upgrades, you get further gains from the intake and exhaust. What I mean is if you add a sc, EMS, or others, you would get more increase for that upgrade alone if you had already done the intake/exhaust upgrade.

As for cams for our car, that really becomes more advantageous when you go to a boosted application. The only one I know that has done anything with cams is Stoid Racing. They did some flow testing on the heads and determined they could get significant improvements by modifying the stock cams. Again, this is in a highly modified 1MZ-FE with high boost. That DEFINITELY is not a cheap upgrade. You're realistically looking at a complete overhaul on the heads, valves, valve guides, springs, etc. Plus the real benefit is after you do the sc anyway. Hope it helps. -JoeB
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Postby Fletch » Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:38 am

I can attest to Joe's statement. On the intake side, I've removed upper & lower intake resonators and have a K&N drop in, inexpensive mod. Now with the custom cat-delete y-pipe, the motor just flies through the middle and upper RPM range. In fact a custom y-pipe could be a relatively inexpensive mod also, $250 - 300?
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Postby bassthrive » Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:14 am

How much did the sound of your car change when you removed the intake resonators?
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Postby pervo » Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:06 pm

i must admit even w/ my K & n both me and my girl notice imediate improvements- but im still hesitant to get a ram air intake... also sucking up water w/ a cold air scares me

so ive got a k & n and all i have to do is remove the intake resonators...
i posted a link in another thread of mine were this was advised that says it can be detrimental too.... http://www.users.bigpond.com/pgscott/re ... nator.html

any tutorials on this?

any opinions on the ignition upgrades

btw. im having a hard time finding web sights for aftermarket solara stuff... sounddomain leaves much to be desired :roll:
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Postby indiglosolara » Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:12 pm

You can always upgrade the wires. I believe they have 8.5mm magnacore wires that are high performance.

Also they have MSD ignitions available if i remmeber correct. I know Greg has one set-up.
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