Jim's fuel kit

[DatSRBoi]

This Shizo will increase the Flowzeal Dawgz ..So where's astro at? I need to ask him the parts to buy..

[that1mexguy]

$200 may sound like too much but it really isnt if you read the following thread (the original thread by Jim himself)

http://www.camryman.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1823

most of your questions have already been answered there

[lilm]

I have a completly stock solara with no s/c you think this is worth me getting into?


if so then....

Do you think if I pm jim he would tell how to do his kit? cause 200 bucks is alot and i know that if i got the....directions i would be able to fabricate it myself.

[Astro]

This Shizo will increase the Flowzeal Dawgz ..So where's astro at? I need to ask him the parts to buy..

Contact Jim, he'll give you the info you need.

To order this system mail a check (or for fastest delivery a money order) to the address below.
If you would like a picture, email your request to Foreignaffairs@aol.com.
If you would like to speak to me directly, you can call me at the shop 8am to 5pm M-F.
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2315 SE 11th Avenue
Portland, Oregon 97214

(503) 236-2871

[Grazi07]

I'm guessing this won't have a dramatic effect on an NA vehicle, correct? Seeing as I intend on scing someday, I'm in on a gb...

[shidosha01]

Do you think if I pm jim he would tell how to do his kit? cause 200 bucks is alot and i know that if i got the....directions i would be able to fabricate it myself.

I don't think so.

[PDX SuperSolara]

This fuel system upgrade would probably not have much of an effect on non-boosted applications. I've sold many of them and the response has always been that it was well worth the price; even on cars with just 4 psi boost it has made a dramatic difference and has solved all fuel system related problems. Those people who have had to replace knock sensors have had to spend $500-$600 or more and without proper fuel delivery you will just blow one or more again. Many people have spent many hundreds of dollars on fuel pumps and fuel injectors that literally made the problem worse. You don't have to. That's worth something.

Now I admit that if you take your fuel system apart, measure everything up, drive all around town piecing the parts together yourself, you will save a few dollars, if you can even find the parts you need. And you are going to find out that those aluminum fittings are not just a couple dollars each. Sure you are paying a little for the lack of having to do that and having sent to your front door the exact set-up that has worked perfectly for many others.

There is a reason things cost what they do. It is usually because it is worth it. This is one of those things that is worth it. Now a Starbucks coffee you pay 3 or 4 dollars for when they make it for 25 cents is not worth it.

[JoeB]

I thought $200 was expensive also. I started calling around and getting prices to build it myself. First of all, I couldn't find 1 place with all the parts. Second, I wasn't able to save any money. The cheapest I came up with was $240. I wasn't picking cheap fittings though so I'm not saying that it couldn't be done for less.

There is 1 part of the stock fuel system that if you saw it would sell this easily. It's the part on the back fuel rail that goes up to the front fuel rail. That is SO restrictive. I agree this kit probably wouldn't do much for N/A vehicles. I have a lot of respect for Toyota engineering and believe that the stock setup is fine for N/A engines.

For the person that asked if this could damage the engine, no. Even on a N/A engine this is a good quality setup and can only improve fuel delivery. Again, I don't think you'll see a difference on the N/A engine but it'll work fine. On a sc'd engine, I think this is a great idea. I forget the exact numbers but I want to say I had a 17% difference in fuel from the front rail to the rear rail. I did a combination of Jim's fuel lines and modifying the fuel pressure regulator to 59psi. -JoeB

[Whatever]

hmm... I kinda wanna do that. Does taht lower your MPG? and is it bad for engine?

It helps if you have the CHARGER!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKKKER!!!!!!!!!!!!

so you have to have to charger??

[DatSRBoi]

hmm... I kinda wanna do that. Does taht lower your MPG? and is it bad for engine?

It helps if you have the CHARGER!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKKKER!!!!!!!!!!!!

so you have to have to charger??

If you read in your pervious forums, Yes he does.....FUCKKKER!!!!!!! ahaha got your back 1LOKEDOUTSLE...

[noodlerooney]

For S/C engines, do Jim's fuel pressure regulator mod, it's FREE!
Writeup is on Camryman's Passing Lane under the Solara forum.
I stand corrected by JoeB, mod not for N/A engines.

[JoeB]

For N/A engines, do Jim's fuel pressure regulator mod, it's FREE!
Writeup is on Camryman's Passing Lane under the Solara forum.

For an N/A engine, I would not do that fuel mod. The 43psi from the factory is a good recommended pressure. It is also the pressure the rest of the fuel system was spec'd at like the fuel injectors.

The reason to do the fuel pressure regulator mod is when you have a boosted application. The stock fuel system is fine for no boost but when you start hitting pressure rather than vacuum, it works against fuel delivery. You need to increase fuel pressure accordingly to keep up with the pressure. The more boost/pressure, the more you increse the fuel pressure.

The Risk:
If you haven't done anything to increase the air into the combustion chambers and you now increase the fuel pressure, you will increase the fuel delivery. The ECU can correct for it and will automatically. The problem is, you've now changed the balance of the system. If you check on an OBD2 scanner, you'll see the a negative correction for a rich condition expressed in %. If you imbalance the fuel delivery too much (around 18% I think), it will throw a CEL. This means that the ECU is not able to correct it far enough to deliver an optimal fuel ratio. Since it should have the ability to correct for normal changes like altitude, it will assume something is malfunctioning.

Realistically, it might not be enough to quite get it past 18% to throw a code but why imbalance the system at all? That mod is really meant for boosted applications. -JoeB

[808Camry]

To support Joe I thought 200 was a lot but much so I called jim and he pointed me in the right direction. You might save maybe $20-$40 but the hasstle of putting it all together and having the right tools to secure everything is not worth it. Trust us old timers when we say its a good deal if you got $200. This is not some cheap accessory kit, its a real deal performance mod.