I4 vs V6

[Astro]

I know this is a bit off topic, but have you guys drove a v6 camry vs. a v6 solara? When i was in the process of buying a new car. I test drove a 99 SLE auto (which i almost bought). And then I test drove a 97 v6 camry with a 5spd. I test drove it to see what it would be like to have a manual solara with a v6 (never knew I would actually find one). Man did that camry lay down the power. Those tires seemed break loose a lot easier than my v6 solara. Have you guys ever noticed that?

So that was manual vs. auto?

[ezshift5]

..while the four has the potential for the greater fuel efficiency desired by today's average citizen........

...the six acquits itself - not only faster in stock form - well at the pump!!

..I just traded mine for a new Accord Coupe six speed...........


CU alligators later.......................ez

[bronzemaxell]

I know this is a bit off topic, but have you guys drove a v6 camry vs. a v6 solara? When i was in the process of buying a new car. I test drove a 99 SLE auto (which i almost bought). And then I test drove a 97 v6 camry with a 5spd. I test drove it to see what it would be like to have a manual solara with a v6 (never knew I would actually find one). Man did that camry lay down the power. Those tires seemed break loose a lot easier than my v6 solara. Have you guys ever noticed that?

i own both a camry 03 SE 2az manual transmission and solara 99 SE 1mz manual transmssion, 2az has better fuel/milage, and better low end torque,
one time, i drove on them one after another on the same road, 2az feels lighter on gas pedal and has stronger 2nd gear, and 1mz feels heavier on gas pedal.
in term of torque, 1mz is stronger in every gear, and i can push it hard and it will go where as the 2az just has adequate power, 2az "feel" almost as quick as 1mz V6 auto.

for daily driving, i think 2az is fine, for weekend spin, 1mz is best choice

[Jai_Jai_Binks]

for daily driving, i think 2az is fine, for weekend spin, 1mz is best choice

^^ Exactly....I drive 5s for daily commuting and keep my 1mz for weekends!

[xavier]

I know this is a bit off topic, but have you guys drove a v6 camry vs. a v6 solara? When i was in the process of buying a new car. I test drove a 99 SLE auto (which i almost bought). And then I test drove a 97 v6 camry with a 5spd. I test drove it to see what it would be like to have a manual solara with a v6 (never knew I would actually find one). Man did that camry lay down the power. Those tires seemed break loose a lot easier than my v6 solara. Have you guys ever noticed that?

i own both a camry 03 SE 2az manual transmission and solara 99 SE 1mz manual transmssion, 2az has better fuel/milage, and better low end torque,
one time, i drove on them one after another on the same road, 2az feels lighter on gas pedal and has stronger 2nd gear, and 1mz feels heavier on gas pedal.
in term of torque, 1mz is stronger in every gear, and i can push it hard and it will go where as the 2az just has adequate power, 2az "feel" almost as quick as 1mz V6 auto.

for daily driving, i think 2az is fine, for weekend spin, 1mz is best choice

very well put.

[xyntax]

I love the 2AZ-FE. It's the reason why I'm holding on to my A/T Solara. Great for daily driving, good pull comes up at 2K RPMs and pulls harder at higher RPMs. It's also great on gas. For some reason, I tend to drive faster with my Solara than with my RX-8 simply because I don't have the constant concern for gas mileage

I read an article about predicting that Toyota might use this engine as their standard I4 for cars above the Corolla.

[Somedude]

I have the 2004 gen 2 four banger and I tell you, it is the most fuel efficient midsize car I have ever driven.

[Jackass-Jeff]

I have the 2004 gen 2 four banger and I tell you, it is the most fuel efficient midsize car I have ever driven.

04+ need the v6 though... the weight of the car increased by 200-300 lbs and the 2AZ doesn't cut it anymore... it's perfect in the 02-3 Solara though.

[xavier]

Yet again, well said.

[Somedude]

still, the gen 2 with the 2AZ-FE is not slow. I would get the v6 if I was more concerned about power, the v6 is fuel efficient too.

[Jackass-Jeff]

Jeff, The 4 banger gen 1.5 is sluggish also, who are you trying to kid???...

Don't forget not everyone drives using the whole powerband like you =P Up to the 3000 RPM mark in 1st and 2nd gear, they are pretty even. Once in 3rd gear, higher speeds/rpms then you feel the true difference the V6 makes.

It's like comparing a Honda 4-cyl w/ a Toyota 4-cyl. The Toyota feels fast because of the torque (due to VVT-i) but has a lower peak horsepower (which is not utilized on a daily basis by most people) while Honda has lower torque outputs but quite a bit more peak horsepower (due to VTEC which is built on RACING TECHNOLOGY where they keep it in high RPMs). The 2AZ-FE (VVT-i) vs 1MZ-FE (non VVT-i) is even as I stated above, until you hit certain degrees of usage. The 2AZ vs 1MZ w/ VVT-i is a different story. The 2AZ still has slightly more low end torque due to the bore and stroke but the 1MZ will have a broader, more useful torque range vs the non vvt-i version.

A great example likes in Euro cars vs Japanese cars... most Japanese cars will go from a low torque output to peak and die off... while "high end" euro cars will peak torque at about 2000 RPM and have peak until the 5k or so mark... (example of peak torque throughout can be found in the LX 470... peaks from just under 2k RPM to 5Kish)

We need to take the derivative of the torque/hp graphs to see the acceleration =P then take the 2nd degree deriv. to find the rate of acceleration... since the dyno graph is the rate of power provided

[Solorange]

I know this is a bit off topic, but have you guys drove a v6 camry vs. a v6 solara? When i was in the process of buying a new car. I test drove a 99 SLE auto (which i almost bought). And then I test drove a 97 v6 camry with a 5spd. I test drove it to see what it would be like to have a manual solara with a v6 (never knew I would actually find one). Man did that camry lay down the power. Those tires seemed break loose a lot easier than my v6 solara. Have you guys ever noticed that?

So that was manual vs. auto?

Sorry if that was a bit confusing. Im comparing a v6 manual camry to a v6 manual solara. What i was saying i think the camry throws the power down a bit better and i have no clue why since they are the same cars. The only thing i can think of is if the 4 door is lighter than the 2 door. I havent looked it up yet. Or the other reason maybe cause it might have had bad tires. I was just wondering if you guys agree.

[TadS]

Sorry if that was a bit confusing. Im comparing a v6 manual camry to a v6 manual solara. What i was saying i think the camry throws the power down a bit better and i have no clue why since they are the same cars. The only thing i can think of is if the 4 door is lighter than the 2 door. I havent looked it up yet. Or the other reason maybe cause it might have had bad tires. I was just wondering if you guys agree.

Gen 4 Camry is a bit lighter than the Gen 1 Solara. We have better trim quality .

[SolaraT]

v6 is definatly more powerfull. I drove both and for the difference of 300 lb it is much more worth it to get the v6. Especialy manual tranny on the v6. It ROCKS HARD! Compared to the i4 of coarse. the highest selling point on the i4 2.2 or 2.4 is the gas milage. I sold my i4 on that factor alone! The buyer owned a 98 honda accord v6 and complained about the gas milage and she was now looking for the same style car but with better gas milage. That plus red and with a custom sunroof and sound set it off! So if you are wanting more power don't think twice about the i4.