Tire/Wheel Size

[NASTY]

not only that, but wouldn't 235's be a little wide for a 7" width?

[ICUFG]

Wouldn't the 235/45/17 pose more of a threat for rubbing over the 225/45/17? Several people I've talked to said to be careful going any size over 225's.

Yeah sorry I meant to say 225/45/17, I have 235/40/18's and they rub in the rub in the back I had to cut 1/4 inch of the back fender lips.

[dbanker]

Yeah I was thinking the 235/45/17 would be too large. It ought to be perfect for the 17x7 wheels I'm thinking.

You know, this is a bit off subject for this forum.....but I've read up on it quite a bit here and also other sites, but still I get no REAL good answer. When it comes to actual Tire/Tread life for tires such as Michelin Pilot Sport and Yokohama AVS Sport I hear peope say that they wear out as soon as 10k and some that say you can easily go 30-40k on them. These are the two tires I'm considering and am leaning towards the AVS Sports. Anyone know the the tread life on these bad boys? Or if they're noisy at highway level speeds (as I've read some say)?

[dbanker]

I'm also looking at the Yokohama AVS ES100, I've heard good things about them as well. Allright I need to get off this website and go to bed.....

[Flipside909]

Yeah I was thinking the 235/45/17 would be too large. It ought to be perfect for the 17x7 wheels I'm thinking.

You know, this is a bit off subject for this forum.....but I've read up on it quite a bit here and also other sites, but still I get no REAL good answer. When it comes to actual Tire/Tread life for tires such as Michelin Pilot Sport and Yokohama AVS Sport I hear peope say that they wear out as soon as 10k and some that say you can easily go 30-40k on them. These are the two tires I'm considering and am leaning towards the AVS Sports. Anyone know the the tread life on these bad boys? Or if they're noisy at highway level speeds (as I've read some say)?

AVS ES100 are great tires. If you are on a budget, Khumo Ecsta Supra 712s work great as well. If money isn't a factor, definitely go with Pilot Sport A/S...not the regular Pilot Sport.

As for 235/45...you are gonna rub...and it's a little too wide for a 7" wide rim. 225/45R17 is the perfect size for a 17x7. It's the same size that TRD used on the TSW/TRD rim package.

[Optimus]

I have the Yokahama AVS ES100s on mine. Excellent traction, but a little more noise than I'd like. I've got 10K on them and expect 15K-20K more. Depends on what tread wear rating you get. Mine are an older model that had a higher tread rating (which may also be the road noise problem).

I recommend also looking at Dunlop SP sport 9000.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... 15WR79000M

Just remember that perfomance tires wear out much faster and you will be buying another set before you know it.

[Guest]

Yeah thats what I'm thinking, Optimus. I want to get new wheels/tires so I can use my OEM '16s during the winter. And I'm thinking '17s are the size I want to go with, deifnitely not custom '16s. After looking at your car with the '17s on stock struts/springs I think it looks great...I'll be going with new struts/springs soon anyways so I'll be fine.

Now I just have to figure out which ones to go with. I'm thinking Konig Blatants or Verdicts and Michelin Pilot Sport XGT 114s...I'll have to look around though a bit. There's several other wheels that I like as well. After looking at your car though I feel more comfortable about doing this without lowering for now.

WAIT!!

if you're planning to use your OEM 16" rims for winter (which is now), and you need to replace your tires "now", why not buy new winter tires for your 16s, then wait until closer to spring/summer to buy your 17s? It's not a waste of money to buy 16 inch tires if you're going to need them next winter as well. And if you get your 17s now, don't you still want to use your 16s for the rest of this winter (with which you currently have old tires that need replacing)?
jerold

my camry

[Guest]

if you're planning to use your OEM 16" rims for winter (which is now), and you need to replace your tires "now", why not buy new winter tires for your 16s, then wait until closer to spring/summer to buy your 17s? It's not a waste of money to buy 16 inch tires if you're going to need them next winter as well. And if you get your 17s now, don't you still want to use your 16s for the rest of this winter (with which you currently have old tires that need replacing)?

i forgot to mention about the springs/struts. what's the winters like where you live? are you sure you even want to lower your car? if so, even more so, you may want some quality winter tires on your 16s.

[Yanks0114]

Thats what I do. I have my TRD (TSW) 17x7 with toyo proxie t1-s tires for spring/fall/summer and for winter i have my stockies with snow tires on them. Its so nice because when we get the first snow i don't need to go get them mounted and balanced, i just put the rims on myself.

[dbanker]

I was figuring (or more so hoping) the Yokahama AVS ES100s would last between 20-30k. They're just for summer tires as well so I could put a good three summers on them. I'll look into the Pilot A/S as well. How does the tread life compare between the Pilot A/S and the AVS ES100s?

As for getting new tires now, I have snow tires on at the moment that can last through April easily. Then I will replace them with the new '17s. That way I can just get new snow tires this October/November.

The winters here in Colorado Springs aren't terribly bad. When it does snow heavily I won't go out driving anyays. This only happens 3 or 4 times a winter. I know I do want to lower the car though, it's just a matter of when I can do it. I've driven my brothers 300Z conv around a ton out there and you just have to be careful. I know lowering the Solara 1.6" won't be anywhere near that low.

[dbanker]

I have a question for you all: Based on experience of all the tires previously mentioned (as well as any other performance tire) how would you rank them in order of preference.

Considering price, dry/wet tractio, tread wear, road noise, ride comfortect, etc.

[cdssolara]

I have been using Michelin Pilot A/S tires since late summer, and I really like them. I have about 8,000 miles on them, and they're not showing much wear at all. The tread rating is 400, versus 220 for the regular Pilots. They're good on dry roads, and great on wet roads. The ride comfort is slightly harsher than the stock Michelin MXV4 Plus tires. Road noise is also increased from stock, but now that I've had them for awhile, I don't notice it. The biggest problem with them is that they're a bit on the expensive side. Other than that, they're great tires.

[Flipside909]

I have been using Michelin Pilot A/S tires since late summer, and I really like them. I have about 8,000 miles on them, and they're not showing much wear at all. The tread rating is 400, versus 220 for the regular Pilots. They're good on dry roads, and great on wet roads. The ride comfort is slightly harsher than the stock Michelin MXV4 Plus tires. Road noise is also increased from stock, but now that I've had them for awhile, I don't notice it. The biggest problem with them is that they're a bit on the expensive side. Other than that, they're great tires.

I agree with you Carlo. I think you get what you pay for...and considering most performance tires are in the 280 treadwear range, 400 is stellar for a high performance tire. Those will definitely be my next set of tires after the Khumos go out in approx 25,000 miles.

[dbanker]

Well, if the Michelin Sport A/S last as long as they do I guess it's just a matter of choosing whether to get the Yokahama AVS ES100s and possibly replace them twice for the time frame you could have one pair of the Sport A/S's (roughly). It's just a question of coming up with $800 for tires. Might be hard to do if I do wheels at the same time. Hmmm...I may just go with the AVS ES100s and see what they do for me. I can always upgrade to the Sport A/S's next time.

What are all your opinions on the Sport Edition wheels? I've been considering the Fox 2 as an option. And the Alessio Sanremo's as well (http://www.alessiousa.com/Frame/WheelSelect.htm).

[JMSinMaryland]

It all depends on how the roads are. I definitely think 18s are the perfect size for the Solara. I have the Verdicts on my car which I think match my paint color perfectly. I have my 16" stocks for winter for fear of hitting a curb, road salt eating away finish, not detailing my rims and having brake dust eat away at them, etc. Why upgrade 1", from a 16" to a 17", go larger. The 225/40 18 offers enough sidewall that unless you're in NYC I wouldnt worry about it. I picked Pirelli P7000 Super Sports which are considered All-Season Ultra-High Performance. They are rated at 320AA and come with a 40,000k mileage warranty and can be picked up for about $160 online. They are a bit wide for snow but I was able to get to my tire place after the first snowfall to change to my 16s. Look at the pics for view of 225/40 18 and sidewall. My psi was down a bit so it looks like less than it is. Look at the top of the tire for what it's like with higher psi. Hope this helps. p.s. check out the Konig Blatant they're pretty hot. Jon.