Supra engine in Gen1 Solara?

[ZXLNT]

http://www.turboneticsinc.com/racing_paulefantis.htm

Supra engine in a Solara from Turbonetics

They mean a full Solara, not just a shell and a tube frame

Yeah I was gonna say, the only thing Solara on that car is the body shape and name badges..

[pythonjosh]

$500 crx
$250 D16y8
$800 t3/t4 turbo kit with large front mount
$250 Hondata S200
$80 racing head gasket
$50 missing link

well theres your mid 13 second crx for under $2k

but Chris i was more or less showing the enormous difference in money when talking performance.

if you want to get all technical about adding another $5k to make it BPU++. that same $5k could make that crx VERY boost happy. stroked, bored, forged internal, ls/vtec style. upwards of 600fwhp where your supra is still choking and half a ton heavier

wow didnt know in FL things are so cheap over there..... in southern california a crx starts at 2g to 5g. those 800 kits are pos btw, they are all made in china.

any solara with supra motor===> not worth it. To have a build up 3SGTE is a more realistic goal. i believe many supra in the high end official races use 3SGTE instead of 2jzgte.

Better:

Used 92 Civic CX shell = $1500

JDM H22A and trans + shipping, extra components = $3000
Used Forged wheels and street slicks = $1500

Suspension = $1000

Grand Total = $7000

And if you wanna get "crazy", add:

Bride seats = $2000
CF hood = $500

4 piece chassis support (strut bars etc) = $500

All this under $10,000

It will run 12's with out boost.

Ad a couple more grand and boost it, juice it, intercool it, stereo, etc etc etc all under $15,000

Also, these are the best components. You could purchase with a budget and keep it well under $10k and still have a H22A Civic EG

As far as a 2jz motor in a solara, you'll need an extreamly experienced team and a butt load of sponsership.

Exactly. Honduh = Cheap power. I know the H22A first hand, that's a beefy engine! H22A swap in a 94 Accord was smoking modded Preludes off the line, roll on, you name it. H22A = our 3SGE imo.

[Turbosolara]

The 2JZ-GTE is a pig. That is one of the biggest complaints I read about the Supra i.e. the weight. Whereas the Pikes Peak Celica, HKS Celica and Top Secret Supra all feel that the 3S-GTE is the most efficient (weight vs. power) engine available. Plus the swap has been done for our cars so nobody is forging the way. I think the only variable is someone building it up and making our cars beasts. Jon.

i highly disagree with you
you wont find 750whp pump gas daily driven 3s-gte's
but we all know that realistically a built 2jz-gte is going to work the same build 3s-gte. 1400whp and ish

The reason that you can have 750whp 3sgte because of high boost. so if you dont let your boost go high, you are ok to use low octane. even those crazy power supra they will not drive on the street with high boost either unless they have race fuel. the real reason that you never seen a 750whp 3sgte mr2 on the street because mr2 is too light, it will make it not driveable. my bro has a friend who has a 900hp supra, he was complaint that it is so hard to drive now.

however, for performance purpose, 3SGTE is more favorable. not only light weight, but also the over all deign such as the stroke size


another interesting mod is drop a SR20DET inside a solara. SR20DET has FWD version which are aviliable in japan

[pythonjosh]

however, for performance purpose, 3SGTE is more favorable. not only light weight, but also the over all deign such as the stroke size

Doesn't the 3sgte weigh just like 40 lbs less than the 1mzfe?
An mr2 buddy of mine told me that.

[houtrd00]

why do people bring up hondas u cant match toyota quality with honda crap
but if any one does complete the swap that would be a nice car 2 drive

[that1mexguy]

why do people bring up hondas u cant match toyota quality with honda crap
but if any one does complete the swap that would be a nice car 2 drive

yup, and you know, it's funny how some see it ridiculous to spend $20K on a $10K when some people spend $15K on $6K cars.... the ratio is about the same but the only difference is that this one has never been done. and i'll tell you what, the day it happens (if it ever does) it will open a new can of everything, not to mention it will be ONE of a kind.... yeah we could go buy "another" supra but that's exactly what it will be, just "another" car ... i hope someone can ever do this.

Not trying to bring Honda in the conversation again but If anyone would've told me they wanted to do an engine swap in a CRX and put an NSX engine in it, i would've been like "yeah dude, whatever" ... but someone had the cojones to do it, and guess what, it's one of a kind... so what does that tell me? anything is freaking possible, just gotta have the BALLS and MONEY to do it, cheers

[Sol-Toy]

why do people bring up hondas u cant match toyota quality with honda crap
but if any one does complete the swap that would be a nice car 2 drive

Honda quality has been proven superior to all other Japanese manufactures time and time again. Consumer Reports will back this up year after year. Toyota has a slightly cheaper sale price and a slightly less reliablity record. Why do you think used Honda's maintain such a high re-sale value and have maintained the top selling import for the past 15 years?

[houtrd00]

why do people bring up hondas u cant match toyota quality with honda crap
but if any one does complete the swap that would be a nice car 2 drive

yup, and you know, it's funny how some see it ridiculous to spend $20K on a $10K when some people spend $15K on $6K cars.... the ratio is about the same but the only difference is that this one has never been done. and i'll tell you what, the day it happens (if it ever does) it will open a new can of everything, not to mention it will be ONE of a kind.... yeah we could go buy "another" supra but that's exactly what it will be, just "another" car ... i hope someone can ever do this.

Not trying to bring Honda in the conversation again but If anyone would've told me they wanted to do an engine swap in a CRX and put an NSX engine in it, i would've been like "yeah dude, whatever" ... but someone had the cojones to do it, and guess what, it's one of a kind... so what does that tell me? anything is freaking possible, just gotta have the BALLS and MONEY to do it, cheers

haha mexguy ur def right

[houtrd00]

why do people bring up hondas u cant match toyota quality with honda crap
but if any one does complete the swap that would be a nice car 2 drive

Honda quality has been proven superior to all other Japanese manufactures time and time again. Consumer Reports will back this up year after year. Toyota has a slightly cheaper sale price and a slightly less reliablity record. Why do you think used Honda's maintain such a high re-sale value and have maintained the top selling import for the past 15 years?

simply becuz this is solaraguy not hondaguy and my personal choice is a toyota over a honda anyday

[Sol-Toy]

why do people bring up hondas u cant match toyota quality with honda crap
but if any one does complete the swap that would be a nice car 2 drive

Honda quality has been proven superior to all other Japanese manufactures time and time again. Consumer Reports will back this up year after year. Toyota has a slightly cheaper sale price and a slightly less reliablity record. Why do you think used Honda's maintain such a high re-sale value and have maintained the top selling import for the past 15 years?

simply becuz this is solaraguy not hondaguy and my personal choice is a toyota over a honda anyday

LOL and that just simply makes Honda crap? That doesn't even make sense. You said Honda reliablity is crap and Toyota is better. This is a false statement..however, they are almost equivelent with the popular model vehicles.

But just so I don't give Honda more credit then Toyota, I purchased my used Solara cause the equivelant Accords had a much higher re-sale. The price was right on the majority of the Solaras even though I like Solara's and Accord coupes the same.

[houtrd00]

why do people bring up hondas u cant match toyota quality with honda crap
but if any one does complete the swap that would be a nice car 2 drive

Honda quality has been proven superior to all other Japanese manufactures time and time again. Consumer Reports will back this up year after year. Toyota has a slightly cheaper sale price and a slightly less reliablity record. Why do you think used Honda's maintain such a high re-sale value and have maintained the top selling import for the past 15 years?

simply becuz this is solaraguy not hondaguy and my personal choice is a toyota over a honda anyday

LOL and that just simply makes Honda crap? That doesn't even make sense. You said Honda reliablity is crap and Toyota is better. This is a false statement..however, they are almost equivelent with the popular model vehicles.

But just so I don't give Honda more credit then Toyota, I purchased my used Solara cause the equivelant Accords had a much higher re-sale. The price was right on the majority of the Solaras even though I like Solara's and Accord coupes the same.

sorry let me make something clear IMPO i think toyota is better not from looking at facts or consumer reports just what i like so to me honda is crap toyota is not.....but once again its the same as saying black is a better color than blue just my opinion
sorry

[Jon11582]

I think Toyota is right on the same level as Honda for new cars. Two companies, similar philosophies with slight twists. I believe that Honda builds sportier cars and targets more youthful people and car enthusiasts.
I also believe that the average Toyota will last longer and will be slightly more reliable than the average Honda, since Toyota does not have to deal with the pressures of the enthusiasts for performance. Finally, I believe the average Toyota driver to take better car of thier cars (whether it be routine oil changes or keeping the car out of the rev-happy redline, therefore making used Toyota vehicles much more reliable.

Finally, I think Toyota and Honda are a cut above everyone else as far as reliability is concerned, so much that I wouldn't want to purchase a car not made by one of these two companies.

And to the original post, you will never get a 2JZ-GTE in a solara, but you can put a Solara around a Supra TT.

And I really like the idea of a SR20DET in a Solara for some reason, even though cross-branded motor/frames is considered bordering on vehicular blasphemy to some people...

[made in china]

IMO, Honda and Toyota are the same as far as quality. However, they approach driving dynamics in a completely different manner. Toyotas are quiet and floaty, and Hondas make more engine noise (the good kind) and "feel" more connected. I'm comparing Camry to Accord, Corolla to Civic, etc. I think the REAL reason Hondas became so popular in the 90's is because the Hondas of that time were really good at faking performance. My other car is a Integra. Yup, my Solara smokes it in a straight line, but the Integra is much more fun to dart thru traffic in. Anyway, I own both, and the experience is totally different between the Honda and Toyota. I feel my Integra is a real survivor, extremely reliable (it's been stolen, totalled and stripped) but after piecing her back together, I trust it to take me anywhere. I also have total faith my Toyota will be a good car.

Anyway, back to the subject. Anyone who said to just buy a Supra, I agree 100%.

However, a thought occured to me the other day to put a twist on this...why not a All-Trac Solara conversion?? It's more feasible than a Supra-Solara seeing as how 2 generations before the Camry was available as a All Trac, these Camrys still share alot with those old Camrys, and I am sure some kind of hi-power 'Yota motor would bolt up to that drivetrain (or maybe a Celica All-Trac drivetrain??)

[ThatVietGuy]

I think doing the AWD drivetrain would be just as hard as doing a RWD conversion

[Turbosolara]

toyota is heaveir but has torque.
honda is lighter but has performance.

there is not strict relationship if one is better than another. they are constantly improving... for example, now a new civic's trim quality might as good as camry already, eh, or even better than IS300 (just my opinion). but yeah let's stay in the topic........

to put supra motor in a solara is a crazy idea. why is it cool? because it is nonsense, you are still a damn solara. but you are the first and only.