Megan header R&D -- Goup Buy?!?--

[dominoSLEV6]

Of course in pending aprice and what not, is 600 the target market price? Or is it the target GB price? This would include the headers and Y pipe, so it won't be a full exhaust correct? I'm not an exhaust conniseur by any means, in fact I pay little to attention to it, so I'm not positive exactly what these details are. They sent you a full exhaust correct? We'd just be getting the headers and Y pipe? Then the results would be restricted by the stock exhaust so we'd most likely need to purchase something like a Greddy evo to work hand in hand with this? It's just seeming slightly liek by all is said and done with install this will come close to the full exhaust JPP price.

We'll see though, I am interested.

-chris

[hskrsolara]

yes, very good point.

[2002greenhornet]

Actually, JPP price is much higher--$1,600 for the headers to cat + $700 for the catback.

http://www.jpperformancellc.com/camsolheaders.html
http://www.jpperformancellc.com/camsolexhaust.html

[Grazi07]

Before I say anything else, I must stress that this is all tenative and unofficial. It's what I'm expecting, but may or may not be what happens in actuality

For $600, you'll get 2 headers, a y pipe, and a hi-flow resonator (questionable on the resonator, but probable). This is all the piping from the engine block to the Cat. You could eliminate the cat entirely if you wanted, but it would fail emissions. If you wanted a full exhaust, all you'd need would be a hi-flow cat, piping, and muffler.

They just sent me the heads, y, and resonator. I'm running this all with the stock cat and exhaust but my custom CAI. Even with the restriction out the back, I still felt a noticable difference in the cars performance from 2-3k and 4-5 k.

I just saved up enough to get a full exhaust put on, and we'll prolly have the dyno done once I get it installed. Most likely I'll be custom piping a Megan canister on

[JMSinMaryland]

What diameter is the piping 2.25, 2.5, 2.75 or 3" Thanks Jon.

[Grazi07]

I posted something about that earlier on, although the piping for the y might be changing as we re-model it a bit. I think it's 2.5, but I'm really not sure off the top of my head

[JMSinMaryland]

Im no engineer but I think if the y did not have to angle back and somehow move the resonator further down we could harness even more power from the system? Jon.

[PhreakdOut]

Im no engineer but I think if the y did not have to angle back and somehow move the resonator further down we could harness even more power from the system? Jon.

One of the functions of the extra length of pipe is to equal the length of the exhaust for both banks on the V-6. Long (small diameter) runners provide low end torque.

[PhreakdOut]

Before I say anything else, I must stress that this is all tenative and unofficial. It's what I'm expecting, but may or may not be what happens in actuality

For $600, you'll get 2 headers, a y pipe, and a hi-flow resonator (questionable on the resonator, but probable). This is all the piping from the engine block to the Cat. You could eliminate the cat entirely if you wanted, but it would fail emissions. If you wanted a full exhaust, all you'd need would be a hi-flow cat, piping, and muffler.

They just sent me the heads, y, and resonator. I'm running this all with the stock cat and exhaust but my custom CAI. Even with the restriction out the back, I still felt a noticable difference in the cars performance from 2-3k and 4-5 k.

I just saved up enough to get a full exhaust put on, and we'll prolly have the dyno done once I get it installed. Most likely I'll be custom piping a Megan canister on

You guys are getting close to an organized group buy. If you can send me a clean copy of a message with details; I'll post it up in the Group Buy section.

BTW Grazi; Nice handling of the group buy. Those of you who said you're interested, I hope you follow through and make this work for everyone.

[dominoSLEV6]

BTW Grazi; Nice handling of the group buy. Those of you who said you're interested, I hope you follow through and make this work for everyone.

Me too, this is all of course pending the practicality and how functional this is overall. I hate the dreaded phase "pending gains" but it's true, I'm saying for the potential price, if the numbers are right I am in. I don't know who I speak for but I believe that's the general concensus. If this ends up being 1k and throws me an extra 5 whp, not interested.

And yes, I agree Grazi, very good organization and updates for the group buy.

-chris

[Grazi07]

Thanks guys.... we're trying to do this right. I try to emphasize that things are still tenative for a reason, as things aren't finalized. Phreaked, as soon as I have solid info to go on, I'll get it to you to make a post, I appreciate that. For those who are interested, keep posting! The more we get, the more room we have to negotiate pricing with Megan.

As far as pending gains go, I can tell you for a fact that this setup works. I definitely felt an increase of power and torque. I can feel a quicker response when I floor it, either when switching lanes or from a dead stop. No more of the floor it, wait, then jolting launch. The tone it produces isn't any louder, just deeper which is awesome too. I'm not going out on a limb when I say that I think we'll see the biggest difference in the torque numbers, and thats what I think this platform lacks most.

Our problems with the Y right now is that we had to make a few indentations in the piping to clear the oil pan, which constricts and takes away power, and the flange from the resonator to the stock cat is oversized and leaks. Once we get the next version of the Y pipe, I'll be dynoing to give you solid numbers. Might even be able to give some s/c vs n/a numerical differences as well!

In regards to that pic of the Y Jon put up, thats not a pic of a Gen 1 Y. The Gen 1 has almost a "T" intersection where the rear bank meets the front. Megan is addressing it, as obviously a "V" would make more sense from an flow standpoint, but like Phreaked said there is a great deal of engineering/physics behind it.

As exciting as this is for the Solara community and myself, its even more exciting for the guys at my shop. They opened their doors less than a year ago and to have gained the support of Megan and this project was pretty big for them. I don't know when I'll get the next pipe from Megan, probably after the first of the year. We're taking it slow and doing it right.

For kicks and hopefully as a way to reassure people, I'm gonna throw a few pics of the cars my shop has done up in the pics section... at least until I can get some pics myself, which SHOULD be tomorrow. My digi's broken, so I'm relying on ppl to upload them for me....

EDIT!!

I just got my hands on some of the pics we sent to Megan. They were used to illustrate where the problems were so they're not glamorous, but you'll at least get an idea of what we're dealing wtih. I had them emailed to me, they're not hosted. If you want to take a look, PM me your email address and I'll send them out. I'll try to get it hosted tonight.

[SleeperSolara]

Props man.
Hopefully mine goes through.......
Will it bolt right up to the Evo exhuat???
Thanks.

[StockSolara]

Props man.
Hopefully mine goes through.......
Will it bolt right up to the Evo exhuat???
Thanks.

If it bolts up to the stock exhaust I dont see why it won't bolt up to the GReddy EVO or any aftermarket exhaust that is made for the Solara

[arch.HI]

I'm in on the group buy as well. Hopefully the numbers will be close to the JPP 30 whp on a s/c manual.

[Grazi07]

Hit a small snag this week, but it actually is turning out for the better.

I developed an exhaust leak a couple of days back, so last night we got it on the lift to take a look and noticed the gasket between the rear header and block had chipped and partially blew out! Luckily it was just a gasket, but in order to fix it it means removing the rear head... not fun.

Since we're going to be removing it anyways, Megan has offered to pay for us to send the pipes back to them to take a look at the changes we've been recommending. It's been really difficult to relay to them through pictures what needs to be changed, so this should expedite the process and allow them to produce a cleaner beta version! We had recommended moving around the o2 sensors a bit, as well as changing a couple of bends in the Y, so now they'll have the piece in hand to do this right.

In other news, Megan has become fully committed to producing for Solaras. Once this is done, they'll be working with my guys to develop a catback for the Gen 1. Depending on the response they get from those parts, they'll be looking into Gen 2 upgrades ( I can see MikeT and Phreaked smiling already).

Group buy is looking like it could be in the $500 range depending on number of buyers. The shop will be offering discounted installation as well for New England purchasers, but no word on that price yet.

Hehe, I also bought a new muffler off them to do my custom catback... real carbon fiber, real titanium tip...



Specs of the muffler here:
http://www.meganracing.com/products/pro ... prodid=136