New 3.3 liter V-6!!

[Chi Town Solara]

Hey, does anybody know what Toyota is projecting to be the horsepower/Torque ratings for the new V-6 thats gonna go into the Solara?? Thanx

[Peter]

try the search function. search: solara 2004

[Jackass-Jeff]

if it's exactly what they are dropping in the 04 sienna

240 hp 252 torque or something around that...
go to toyota.com and check out the new sienna... i'm sure its the same engine since they currently share one

[Flipside909]

if it's exactly what they are dropping in the 04 sienna

240 hp 252 torque or something around that...
go to toyota.com and check out the new sienna... i'm sure its the same engine since they currently share one

Nope. 3MZ-FE VVT-i is only putting out 220hp for the RX330 and Sienna. I forgot what torque was.

[_nkx1]

Damn, 220hp is weak. You'd think they would be able to squeeze a little more hp out of the 3.3, not to mention upping the hp of the 3.0 dohc engine. I mean, Honda was able to get 240hp from their 3.0 sohc engine, so I don't see why Toyota can't at least match that with the 3.3 or 3.0, especially since the 3.0 (and maybe the 3.3) is a dohc. I guess Toyota is just too conservative.

[Yanks0114]

Damn, 220hp is weak. You'd think they would be able to squeeze a little more hp out of the 3.3, not to mention upping the hp of the 3.0 dohc engine. I mean, Honda was able to get 240hp from their 3.0 sohc engine, so I don't see why Toyota can't at least match that with the 3.3 or 3.0, especially since the 3.0 (and maybe the 3.3) is a dohc. I guess Toyota is just too conservative.

I think they will get more out of it, but we'll see. It always seems like toyota has kept with their competition and they'll need to in order to stay on top. I can just see it now, "240hp honda accord tops carmy in sales for 2004"

LOL we'll see.

[NASTY]

3MZ-FE VVT-i is only putting out 220hp for the RX330 and Sienna. I forgot what torque was.

It's 230hp and 242 lbs of torque. unless canada's different?

[ICUFG]

230hp. and 242ft.-lbs. of torque is correct.

[Jaimster]

You know what sucks? How can the new Altimas come with 3.5's. My girlfriend just got one, and she kicks my ass on acceleration. I hope Toyota can at least do better than 220HP for the 04's... cuz I hate trying to keep up with my chick on the freeway, but hey, I can at least turn quicker than her.

[Yanks0114]

On my moms maxima, same engine as the altima, it accelorates so quickly and smoothly, but your right, they have a horrible turning radius. I Hope toyota will keep up with the trend of high horsepower engines

[Luc]

mean, Honda was able to get 240hp from their 3.0 sohc engine

You have to take into consideration where in the RPM range does Honda measure their HP, since their low end torque is not good. It was the same thought as how the S2000 was rated, but at some high (8000) RPM. It would be great for Toyota to pump out more HP, but the people like us who are more performance geared are not the primary target.

Luc

[SKYravefever]

Even with power primarily at the top end, the S2000 nevertheless hauls a$$, and that's just half the equation. Factor in its handling characteristics, it's definately a thrill to drive. According to Temple of VTEC (yes, lame name, I know), the new V6 EX Auto dyno-ed in at ~196whp. Not too shabby, even if it's juice is on the top end. Take a look at the dyno here: http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-artic ... e_number=2 and you'll notice a fairly flat torque curve.

[Luc]

I agree with you about the S2k's overall characteristics. Good find on that new Accord dyno-test, I'm impressed by the numbers it put out! I was just merely trying to point out every manufacturer, given this instance, Honda, plays the number game at their range just to get a higher HP value. So it's hard to judge a car just by looking at numbers.

Luc

[_nkx1]

I don't understand what you mean by Honda rating their engines at higher rpm's in order to obtain greater hp numbers. All engines produce a peak amount of horsepower, and they all vary in relation to what rpm's the engine produces that peak amount of horsepower. True, the Honda may have less torque than hp, but the bottom line is that the Honda 3.0 sohc produces 240hp, while the Toyota 3.0 dohc only produces 200hp. So why wouldn't Toyota also play the "numbers game" to gain a higher hp rating? It would be a poor business decision not to rate the engine at the highest hp possible for that engine. I think more accurate answer than the "numbers game" would be that either Toyota is somewhat conservative with engine design for whatever reason, or that Honda has the edge in getting the most hp from a relatively small engine.

[Flipside909]

I don't understand what you mean by Honda rating their engines at higher rpm's in order to obtain greater hp numbers. All engines produce a peak amount of horsepower, and they all vary in relation to what rpm's the engine produces that peak amount of horsepower. True, the Honda may have less torque than hp, but the bottom line is that the Honda 3.0 sohc produces 240hp, while the Toyota 3.0 dohc only produces 200hp. So why wouldn't Toyota also play the "numbers game" to gain a higher hp rating? It would be a poor business decision not to rate the engine at the highest hp possible for that engine. I think more accurate answer than the "numbers game" would be that either Toyota is somewhat conservative with engine design for whatever reason, or that Honda has the edge in getting the most hp from a relatively small engine.

Because of the way Honda designs their valve train, bore, stroke, cam gearing...and all of those little details...they are tuned to produce their peak horsepower at a higher RPM band. Any car maker can produce a high horsepower engine, but you need the right torque, and gearing to make it go fast. Toyota's V6's are much more torquey than it's Honda V6 counterparts due to the fact that Toyota designed it to have plenty of torque along with good fuel economy and performance. Toyota uses double overhead cams design whereas Honda uses only SOHC. If Toyota wanted to match their HP numbers, there would be no doubt in my mind that the Toyota V6's torque, with the technology used would net more torque than the Hondas. There are several factors in performance of an engine. Gearing, valve timing, cam gearing, and etc are big factors. You can have all the HP in the world, but you need torque to help move it along.