trading gen1 sola to corolaXRS

[dude]

it has more yaw than the solara!?

i dont know about you guys, but sometimes i have to make jokes when people are riding with me about the suspension being terrible
so they dont think im a loser

it sucks when the honda guys laugh at it before i can get the joke out too

maybe OSCILLATE is the better word. feels like the rear shocks have blown their seals or that the tires are at 15psi.

[Turbosolara]

yeah people stop arguing here, you just wasting your time. Why are you guys trying to stop a guy to get a car he wants?

a xrs might or might not take a v6 solara since the number of 0-60 or quarter miles are vary. However, the fact is a corolla xrs has better track ability and performance potential due to light weight and greater aftermarket support.

[theprodigy79]

I ain't dissing Corollas... They are some of the best built cars on the road, and they are great for what they are. Not to mention, the aftermarket support for them rocks!

I ain't dissing the dude for swapping the Solara for a Corolla, that's his dad's call... As a good friend of mine who prefers fat chicks says, "to each his own"...

I ain't dissing Toyota vehicles, or the 'brotherhood' we share... I love the company as a whole, and the chances of me deviating from it in the near future are nill (whether it's a Toyota or Lexus). Not to mention I have stock in the company...

I am simply calling bullshit on putting up a stock XRS against a Solara Gen2 V6 or a Solara Gen1 V6 manual and expecting it to 'win'. You said it yourself that the Gen 1 V6 manual would 'probably win', and the Gen 2 V6 is quicker than the Gen 1 V6 manual... So what the hell are you arguing about...? Where's your leg to stand? I am not arguing that the car couldn't take a Gen 1 V6 auto (nearly an 8 second vehicle), or ANY of the Solara 4 bangers... But someone made the statement that the stock XRS could take any stock Solara, and I don't buy it. I don't give a crap that I don't, personally, have drag slips... But I do know that I've been able to take out 3 of the 3 Corolla XRS I've run with on the road... Whether it was some dude flippin around at a stoplight, or messing around from a roll...

Also, I never called the supercharger a 'minor upgrade'. I do believe, however, that you are expecting a bit much from a supercharger on a car with a base horsepower of 170 on a 4 banger... Assuming a TRD s/c, you can get your numbers from the TRD S/C Celica and subtract 10-15 hp and I'll call that believable... Look at the history of the TRD supercharger and you'll generally find a max of 25% gains on those types of vehicles. Other companies can get more, but you're then dealing with further modifications... I also think you're discrediting how difficult it is to knock even a second off a car's quarter mile, let alone 0-60... But anyhow, will that beat ANY stock Solara? Sure, it will crush them all... But that's no longer a stock XRS, is it...?

I have the money, and I'm willing to throw it down. If you want to keep arguing, be my guest, but I'm done... I've said my part, and I've supplied some backup... Your websites are nice and all, but there's no way to tell what those people have done to their cars (and it's also hard to validate that the slip even belongs to the dude posting, but I'll give them that). The sites I provided are all legit and reputable / impartial review sites who tested bone stock vehicles.

The dude asked if there was any way an XRS would be faster than a Solara... Sure, race a 4 banger or a Gen1 V6 auto, or throw a supercharger on it and call it a day.

Peace,

-James

[karma]

Theprodigy79

Sorry to seem like i was directing my rebuttal completely at you. I know the gen2 is quicker than the gen1 but since this is in the gen1 forum, i ASSUMED it was regarding the swap of a gen1 for an XRS. I was also mad about the fact that a car that is not even close to on par with the manual v6 gen1, the gen1 automatic, was considered to top the XRS in speed. I am willing to bet in a race that an XRS will walk on an Autotragic gen1 (i have one myself) and would agree that the XRS would be par is not right up there or barely beat the gen1 v6 manual. My point was to show that the XRS is NOT a 16 sec car on par with the civic EX. It is a decent car for its size and class.

Also, the SC for the 2zzge is NOT a TRD unit. It's greddy. The gains i posted are DYNO PROVEN, not assumptions. I stated it increased HP by 40% because 220whp (guessing that is what it'll be on the corolla) divided by 150 stock whp is ~40% increase. This was not directed to you, but to someone else on the forum that stated an XRS with SC would still get walked on by a gen1 solara manual . I was just saying 40% increase in whp doesn't only shave off a couple tenths of a sec. Fact is an XRS SC will walk on a gen1 solara manual and probably even a gen2 or gen1 SC.

The sites i posted are reputable people who drive their cars everyday. Mag racing is a waste of time. The people that put down the timeslips put their mods next to it. No one on that board has more extensive mods than an Intake and/or exhaust, most are stock engines they just know how to launch and drive thecar better than some journalist who has to fit in 10 cars in one day and doesn't have enough time to learn the attitude and ability of the motor.

As far as putting money down, i don't have an XRS so i cannot go out and test it, I own an S.

[theprodigy79]

Cool cool, I apologize for getting a bit worked up... I was mostly targeting my initial stuff at someone who stated that the XRS could walk on any stock Solara... I read back and it wasn't you (I guess you're the only one who really put up an arguement so I just assumed).

I wasn't really paying attention to the fact that this was a Gen 1 forum (I saw it on the recent posts up top initially), so I didn't weigh that in either

Honestly (and this may seem silly), the only thing that really set me off was the rolling eyes smilie... I misinterpreted those to be targeted at me (and I hate it when people roll their eyes at me). It's amazing what those damned things can trigger

Anyhow bro, I got respect for you.

Take care,

-James

[dominoSLEV6]

and the Gen 2 V6 is quicker than the Gen 1 V6 manual

I would still love to test this out.

I wans't dissing Toyota either. Simply stating that the car in question most likeley will only take a gen 1 auto V6. I've owned 3 cars, all Toyotas, nothing against them there, sorry if that was misconstrued.

Karma, very good point about the engine being built for higher end power. I would still like my shot at one be it from a roll or stop, in my opinion my car (gen1 V6 5spd) is a better roll car from about 3k in first or second than it is a dig car. Although the 1MZ engine and tranny are NOT built for super high end revving like that at all.

Either way, if anyone was ragging on the dude for getting an XRS it wasn't me.

If I ever get a shot at one I'll let ya'll on here know what happened. It IS definitely a sleeper car tho, no one would expect a Corolla to test any V6, much less win, much less spank one as they definitely can do.

-chris

[XRSIST]

theprodigy79- hey bro we should run sometime. I actually live over in annandale, not too far from you. do you go to any of the meets nearby?

[theprodigy79]

Sounds cool, I'd be game for that. I don't really hit up the meets, never really have the time.

What year XRS do you have, and what have you done with it?

[XRSIST]

its an 05 XRS with an AEM SRI, Apexi Grounding kit, and B&M Short Shifter.

By the way, I think i've seen your car before on braddock rd. You were chasing an NSX i think...

[theprodigy79]

its an 05 XRS with an AEM SRI, Apexi Grounding kit, and B&M Short Shifter.

By the way, I think i've seen your car before on braddock rd. You were chasing an NSX i think...

Hahahaha sounds about right... I live right down Braddock around 4.5 miles from GMU. I remember the NSX, we were toying around with each other, but traffic sucked so we were just goofing... He woulda rocked me in a free pass anyway, but it was fun just messing around.

But yeah bro, I'd like to run with you for fun... we could take it from a stop and from a roll. I ain't into HIGH speed driving around here anymore (too much traffic, too many cops, too much danger), but I'd do a run to 90 or there abouts on 495, 66, or 95... and I'd do a 0-60 at pretty much any safe light around here.

Let me know and we'll figure something out.

-James

[XRSIST]

its an 05 XRS with an AEM SRI, Apexi Grounding kit, and B&M Short Shifter.

By the way, I think i've seen your car before on braddock rd. You were chasing an NSX i think...

Hahahaha sounds about right... I live right down Braddock around 4.5 miles from GMU. I remember the NSX, we were toying around with each other, but traffic sucked so we were just goofing... He woulda rocked me in a free pass anyway, but it was fun just messing around.

But yeah bro, I'd like to run with you for fun... we could take it from a stop and from a roll. I ain't into HIGH speed driving around here anymore (too much traffic, too many cops, too much danger), but I'd do a run to 90 or there abouts on 495, 66, or 95... and I'd do a 0-60 at pretty much any safe light around here.

Let me know and we'll figure something out.

-James

LoL i remember that night. I was like damn...my dream car...NSX....then you came flyin by. ohhh crap...rollin on dubbz haha. Anyways yea, I definately don't want to anything too crazy. My record isn't exactly perfect Lets do 3 runs. one from a dig, one from 30mph, and one at 55. My friend with another XRS wants to come along. We could all grab a bite to eat while we're at it. I'm pretty booked till friday. Whats your sched look like?

[theprodigy79]

haha I hear ya about the record... But yeah, this area just isn't that great for messin around.

I'd be game for some time this weekend (I work a 9-5 during the week, and hang out with friends / girlfriend every night, so it would have to be the weekend). PM me with specifics if you have any idea of where / when.

What has your friend done to his XRS?

-James

[Turbosolara]

lol i just hope you guy will do it peacefully.

[theprodigy79]

lol i just hope you guy will do it peacefully.

We're all Toyota brothers and sisters; there's no hostility involved in this.

[dude]

lol i just hope you guy will do it peacefully.

We're all Toyota brothers and sisters; there's no hostility involved in this.

dam, everytime i read one of your posts, i have to look at your deranged pimped out corolla. i don't want to seem opinionated, but it's just too darn ugly and i have to look at it every time. can you plase save me the visual yuck i get and put something nice to look at instead? i think this is affecting my health. no offense to you, of course.