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I just got my TRD RSB today!

Postby cdssolara » Tue May 27, 2003 3:51 pm

happy_aggies wrote:Y'all, I just changed my RSB setting from Street to Track.

I prefer the Street, it handles corner more naturally,
where the Track tends to be a bit wild when cornering.
(the rear is more responsive => more oversteer).

I almost lost control of my Solara when turning since
the rear is a bit aggressive.

All I have to say, if you don't know what u r doing,
set it at Street setting.


Yeah, I've heard of a few people having problems with the rear end when putting the rear bar on Track setting. I'm assuming that you're using the stock front bar. With an upgraded front bar, the rear bar has a lot more to work against, so the effect is minimized. I'm happy with how neutral my car seems to be with both an upgraded front and the rear bar on Track. If one was available, I'd almost be tempted to get an even stiffer rear bar. There's not way I'd want to go that stiff in the rear if I was using the stock front bar, though.
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Postby xyntax » Tue May 27, 2003 5:43 pm

HydroponiK wrote:I just ordered my TRD RSB and was wondering what tools are needed for the install. From reading other posts here, it looks like I'd be able to install myself (hopefully it isn't too hard).
Also is it possible to install without a jackstand? My driveway is about 2 inches higher than street level, would that be enough clearance to install without any problems?

I will probably attempt installation this weekend or next, hopefully the increased handling is as great as everyone says here.


I think a jackstand would be needed. You need to get in deep enough to work on the sway bar. Tools? Torque wrench, ratchets, jack stands, and IQ. You need to figure out how to pull out the stock bar and put in the new bar. I just loosened up the rubber holding the muffler (the last rubber holding it) in order to stretch down the exhaust pipes coz it tends to block the bar when you're trying to slide it out or in.

ps. In pulling out the stock bar, slide the bar right first outwards then you can slide the rest of it while rotating to go through the things that tend to block it. Putting in the new bar would be kinda reverse process but you have to figure out which way to rotate the bar just to dodge the things that block it. It's fun 8)
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Postby xyntax » Tue May 27, 2003 5:46 pm

Btw, I put mine on track setting. Haven't had a problem as of now. Maybe you guys just push it too much :wink:
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Postby kondo » Wed May 28, 2003 12:37 am

I got my RSB installed a couple of weeks ago, how do you tell if it's on track or street? I think mine is no track but I'm not sure I had it installed when I got my tokico's and tein's put on.

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Postby CrazyCraig » Wed May 28, 2003 7:14 am

If you mate an aftermarket front sway bar with an aftermarket rear sway bar, the handling balance will be about the same as stock. At the same time, you will corner much flatter, which feels a lot better than the body lean that is inherent with the Solara. If you only add an aftermarket front sway bar, then you increase the car's natural tendency to understeer, which is definitely not good. As Yanks says, the front bar does stiffen up the ride somewhat. I have a Whiteline front bar and a TRD rear bar on TRACK setting, and I really like the combination. It can be a little firm on city streets, but it's great for highway driving


I have the TRD RSB set to the track setting right now and I love the handling characteristics that it gave the car.
My brother and I built a stock car out of a '78 Cutlass last year and put the FSB and RSB out of a Hurst Olds into it with the impression that it would make it run through the corners better, but it handled like crap. We ended up going to the original, smaller FSB and we took about 1/2 a second off of our lap times on our 3/10 mile track. The increased body roll planted the front tire better allowing us to run into the corners harder. In other words, a stiffer ride doesn't always mean better handling.
I will however, take your word on the FSB for the Solara.
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Postby Ragtop George » Wed May 28, 2003 9:22 am

I installed my TRD RSB (track setting) last night on my convertible. It does improve cornering, but is not nearly as "extreme" as some have suggested (the car still understeers). I suspect that the heavier and more flexible convertible body reduces the effect. Honestly, I don't know why this bar is not stock equipment (at least on the convertible), the ride is the same but it corners better.

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Postby xyntax » Wed May 28, 2003 10:50 am

Ragtop George wrote:I installed my TRD RSB (track setting) last night on my convertible. It does improve cornering, but is not nearly as "extreme" as some have suggested (the car still understeers). I suspect that the heavier and more flexible convertible body reduces the effect. Honestly, I don't know why this bar is not stock equipment (at least on the convertible), the ride is the same but it corners better.

George


You know what? After realizing how the TRD RSB improves our cars, I thought about that too. How come they didn't put this on as stock? The stock ones were bad. I guess that was the only complain I had about my car: a normal left turn felt like I was turning too fast. I didn't like it coz I had to hold on to something so I dont get thrown off too much. I still like the smooth ride (one of the reasons why I bought this car). The TRD RSB didn't affect it at all.
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Postby impactX » Wed May 28, 2003 3:25 pm

Ragtop George wrote:I installed my TRD RSB (track setting) last night on my convertible. It does improve cornering, but is not nearly as "extreme" as some have suggested (the car still understeers). I suspect that the heavier and more flexible convertible body reduces the effect. Honestly, I don't know why this bar is not stock equipment (at least on the convertible), the ride is the same but it corners better.

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That's because you are still using your stock suspensions.
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Postby cdssolara » Wed May 28, 2003 7:03 pm

CrazyCraig wrote:
If you mate an aftermarket front sway bar with an aftermarket rear sway bar, the handling balance will be about the same as stock. At the same time, you will corner much flatter, which feels a lot better than the body lean that is inherent with the Solara. If you only add an aftermarket front sway bar, then you increase the car's natural tendency to understeer, which is definitely not good. As Yanks says, the front bar does stiffen up the ride somewhat. I have a Whiteline front bar and a TRD rear bar on TRACK setting, and I really like the combination. It can be a little firm on city streets, but it's great for highway driving


I have the TRD RSB set to the track setting right now and I love the handling characteristics that it gave the car.
My brother and I built a stock car out of a '78 Cutlass last year and put the FSB and RSB out of a Hurst Olds into it with the impression that it would make it run through the corners better, but it handled like crap. We ended up going to the original, smaller FSB and we took about 1/2 a second off of our lap times on our 3/10 mile track. The increased body roll planted the front tire better allowing us to run into the corners harder. In other words, a stiffer ride doesn't always mean better handling.
I will however, take your word on the FSB for the Solara.


You're right about stiffer not necessarily handling better. It's possible that on a track, lap times might be better with the stock front bar. I don't know which way would be better, as I haven't tested it on a track. I do know that I like the way the car feels with the combination that I have better than with the stock front bar. On sweeping highway curves it stays very flat. It remains planted on curvy roads, and I haven't noticed that it plows. Mostly, though, I'm just glad to have totally gotten rid of the boaty feel of the stock Solara.
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Postby cdssolara » Wed May 28, 2003 7:08 pm

Xyntax wrote:
Ragtop George wrote:I installed my TRD RSB (track setting) last night on my convertible. It does improve cornering, but is not nearly as "extreme" as some have suggested (the car still understeers). I suspect that the heavier and more flexible convertible body reduces the effect. Honestly, I don't know why this bar is not stock equipment (at least on the convertible), the ride is the same but it corners better.

George


You know what? After realizing how the TRD RSB improves our cars, I thought about that too. How come they didn't put this on as stock? The stock ones were bad. I guess that was the only complain I had about my car: a normal left turn felt like I was turning too fast. I didn't like it coz I had to hold on to something so I dont get thrown off too much. I still like the smooth ride (one of the reasons why I bought this car). The TRD RSB didn't affect it at all.


I felt the same way when I put the Eibachs and Tokicos on my car. I still can't understand why anyone would prefer the stock feel of the car over a combination of Eibach/Tokico/TRD (or Whiteline) rear sway bar. I guess it's because their target market was people in their 40's or 50's who wanted something that was somewhat sporty looking but provided the comfort and luxury appointments of a Camry. That being said, I'll be 50 in a couple of years, and I much prefer my modified version of the Solara. :D
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Postby HydroponiK » Mon Jun 02, 2003 7:04 am

I have a quick question for you guys, my TRD RSB is due to arrive this week and need to prepare to install it. Would using the jack that came with the car be unsafe for installing the RSB? I don't own any type of industrial car jack, but I've also heard you need to have the wheels on the ground when you're installing too. Anyway, let me know what you guys think, thanks.
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Postby impactX » Mon Jun 02, 2003 8:23 am

HydroponiK wrote:I have a quick question for you guys, my TRD RSB is due to arrive this week and need to prepare to install it. Would using the jack that came with the car be unsafe for installing the RSB? I don't own any type of industrial car jack, but I've also heard you need to have the wheels on the ground when you're installing too. Anyway, let me know what you guys think, thanks.


Never work under a car with a jack. Use jackstands.

You can use your jack to jack it up, but you need jackstands to put the car onto while working.

I took both rear wheels out.
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Postby Ragtop George » Mon Jun 02, 2003 8:26 am

Jackstands are much cheaper than funerals or hospital care. Don't risk it.

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Postby happy_aggies » Mon Jun 02, 2003 8:42 am

There are no low jack stand for lowered car.
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Postby HydroponiK » Mon Jun 02, 2003 9:16 am

Just curious, how much would a jack stand cost? This will probably be the only time I'm working under my car (unless I can find a Greddy cat-back) and I don't know if it will be worth it or not.
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