Headlights

[Solorange]

Hey... have any of you tried Luminic Light bulbs? Im thinking about getting these bulbs. I just want to know if they last a decent amount of time and if anyone knows for sure if they are 60/55w? http://www.automotivelightingusa.com/in ... ts_id=1381

I currently have Nokya Arctic White bulbs that are stage II meaning they are drawing 100/120W. Ive been running these lights now for about 1.5 years and have had no problem. Although Im aware now that these could melt my wiring harness. As far as I know it hasn't yet, but I dont want to take that chance. I really like the HID look and I dont really care if I run "fake HIDs" or not. I was looking at HID kits but they are a lot of money and Im not sure how I would be able to install the bulbs in my gen 1 headlights.

Also is it ok to be running 70w for the fog lights?

Thanks in advance

[woa_its_j3ff]

i've had all those HID-imitation brands..
Nokya.. Luminics, Sylvanias, PIAAs.... you name it..

just save yourself the hassle, and get HIDs.
Once you get HIDs, you never go back..

longer life.. lower wattage.. the +'s outweight the -'s by far.. I really can't even think of a single - about HIDs. other than the price, but it's well worth it.

just my .02

[Solorange]

Another question what is the difference between draw wattage and output wattage? Check out this ebay page.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H4-New-L ... enameZWDVW



Jeff I may consider a HID kit if I can figure out how im going to install them. But in all honesty I really dont care if I have halogens or HIDs. Halogens are just more attractive to me right now because of price. I just need to find a set that has the correct wattage for my car.

[woa_its_j3ff]

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[NeFaRiOuS_SLE]

Luminics aren't bad, but the light output wasn't all that good (it was the 5,150K one), and the blue reflection in broad daylight didn't do it for me... I went with Halo Automotive after 2 months; the place that sold them has a 2-year warranty (never brought them back, good sign...), and not to mention it's mirror-coated so that there's little/no blue reflection and the light output isn't bad for a bulb.

But beware: Purple tint + black housing headlights = light output that won't span beyond 30 feet.

**EDIT** You can find it here: http://www.haloautomotive.com

Oh, also not to mention that the coating is VERY lightly done; doesn't seem to have a substantial effect since it lights up the road pretty well at night.

[Solorange]

Luminics aren't bad, but the light output wasn't all that good (it was the 5,150K one), and the blue reflection in broad daylight didn't do it for me... I went with Halo Automotive after 2 months; the place that sold them has a 2-year warranty (never brought them back, good sign...), and not to mention it's mirror-coated so that there's little/no blue reflection and the light output isn't bad for a bulb.

But beware: Purple tint + black housing headlights = light output that won't span beyond 30 feet.

What is halo automotive? lol I dont see luminics being any worse than nokyas as far as light span goes.

[99V6solaraSE]

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=954736

read this.. it might help..

[philosophicaljt]

first off, stay away from bulbs that have coatings, or are colored. for a foglight they are fine, but for a headlight, you lose too much useable light with them.

I STRONGLY reccomend this site:
http://www.rallylights.com/hella/bulbs.asp
for H4:
http://www.rallylights.com/hella/H4.asp

The Hyper bulbs they sell, are just regular bulbs like stock, but with more light output. You go from the stock 1000 lumens to 1750 lumens!

The stock bulb color is going to give you the most useable light ouput.

If you are only changing your fogs, think about getting a yellow bulb if you do want colored. It will actually help in bad weather conditions.

[bassthrive]

The stock bulb color is going to give you the most useable light ouput.

True. Any coating is going to reduce output. I have tried both osram and sylvania silverstars. The osram (cant buy them in the states) have no coating while the sylvanias have a blue tint. The wattages are exactly the same but the non-coated osrams were superior in terms of light put in front of the car. Thanks for that link, I will try the hyper bulbs next!

[Solorange]

Wow... Thanks for all the great info guys!

first off, stay away from bulbs that have coatings, or are colored. for a foglight they are fine, but for a headlight, you lose too much useable light with them.

I STRONGLY reccomend this site:
http://www.rallylights.com/hella/bulbs.asp
for H4:
http://www.rallylights.com/hella/H4.asp

The Hyper bulbs they sell, are just regular bulbs like stock, but with more light output. You go from the stock 1000 lumens to 1750 lumens!

The stock bulb color is going to give you the most useable light ouput.

If you are only changing your fogs, think about getting a yellow bulb if you do want colored. It will actually help in bad weather conditions.

I see your point. But can you answer this. Im looking at those Hella Xenon XP bulbs you posted on that list. It says it produces a 4000k color. Isn't that White? It also says it has a purple coating. So What your saying is these lights produce a white light and the coating on them turns the color to purple. But they will still be brighter as oppose to other lights (nokya, luminics) with blue/purple tint? Is tint and coating the same thing?

Also does anybody know if using 70W bulbs for my fog lamps it too much?

[mazen222]

Color Temp is the color of the light output.
I think 5000 or 6000K is the most white you can get over that they start getting bluish.

The higher the color temp the darker the coating on the bulbs hence resulting in less light output.

I bought 6000K 60/55W from ebay (3$ + 13$ shipping) they have a light blue coating. They produce a nice white light but I was disapointed with the light output while driving in dark places. My opinion is that they are not worth it if the output of the light intensity is reduced. And the only way to get high intensity while having a white output is getting a kit.. which is a litle expensive.

dilema

[philosophicaljt]

yeah, purple tint, plus yellow light (from the filament) = slight blueish.

And 70w is probably not bad. our cars fog lights go through a relay, so the wiring is setup for a large amp draw already. I'm not doing the math, but I would assume its not a huge amperage difference.

[Solorange]

yeah, purple tint, plus yellow light (from the filament) = slight blueish.

And 70w is probably not bad. our cars fog lights go through a relay, so the wiring is setup for a large amp draw already. I'm not doing the math, but I would assume its not a huge amperage difference.

Ok Im ordering these lights. Price is good too... In the mean time i need to put my stockies back in.

[bassthrive]

I bought the 70/65 hyper H4's today. And not a moment too soon. My passenger sylvania silverstar low beam went out. I replaced it with my one remaining osram silverstar (uncoated) and wow, so much more light gained by using a bulb without a coating. I cant wait to see what a 10 watt jump will add!

[Solorange]

Yeah just got an email today saying they shipped mine. I put my stock lights back in for now and those are much brighter. They also made me realize that these black housing lights suck. The have a lot of dead spots in them and the passenger side is angle out a bit far to the right and they dont really adjust well horizontally with those adjustment screws. So I guess I have the same issues as everyone else who could not aim the lights very well.