Anybody intrested in Camry/Solara urethane motor mounts?

[EricSol]

After 2 months of development I have come up with urethane replacement motor mounts. The front hydraulic mount is replaced with a traditional urethane mount and the rear soft rubber bushing also gets replaced by urethane. These mounts are virtually indestructible and my severe wheel hop has been reduced to a slight chatter or shudder. The mounts leave the car with only the slightest shake at idle and after 1k rpm its as smooth as stock. I tried different compounds and I could totally eliminate all the wheel hop but it left the car shaking violently at idle. Traction has increased tremendously, I could only go about 1/4 throttle in 1st gear before it would spin the tires and now I can almost go wide open without wheel spin.

I need an idea of how many people would be interested if I was to make a kit. Exact manufacturing cost are to be determined but your probably looking at $175 to $275, about the cost of factory replacements.

[Yanks0114]

How hard are these to install and will they void the powertrain warranty?

[EricSol]

The front is easy, the rear you have to pull one axle to get the bracket out. I can do the rear in a hour. I have no idea about your warranty.

How hard are these to install and will they void the powertrain warranty?

[hari-bhari]

i thought wheel hop was due to the tires not being in contact with the road properly, like if there were lots of bumps or you spun out your tires or something. like ive been taking a turn fast on a bumpy road and i sort of feel my car 'hopping' around becuase the tires are momentarily losing contact. how is that affected by the motor mounts?

[impactX]

Wheelhop is created during launch. Weight shift to the back under acceleration. When a FF car accelerates from stall, weight shift to the back thus losing traction on the front wheel, acceleration decreases, tires catch traction, weight shift to the back thus losing traction again, acceleration decreases, tires catch traction................

This process is called wheelhopping.

(For reference, wheelhopping can happen when a FR car going in reverse. Try and picture it.)

There are a few ways to prevent wheel hopping such as
1) Stiffer struts
2) Harder engine mounts
3) I forgot the name but I remember some company made a bar to prevent wheelhop on FWD cars.

(These don't eliminate wheelhops completely by the way.)

Props to Eric for finding the balance between comfort and performance!

[EricSol]

The wheel hop I'm talking about is from excesive hp in a fwd. If you had it you would know. Its a real common hp+fwd problem.

i thought wheel hop was due to the tires not being in contact with the road properly, like if there were lots of bumps or you spun out your tires or something. like ive been taking a turn fast on a bumpy road and i sort of feel my car 'hopping' around becuase the tires are momentarily losing contact. how is that affected by the motor mounts?

[DavPak]

and will they void the powertrain warranty?

yes
stiffer mounts puts more stress on axles and the trans.

eric, can you make them in black (instead of red) to more closely match the OEM mounts?

i don't care though, i'm still interested! but the price sounds steep.

[swimshady906]

well im all for this, if you can make em for atleast less than 250 im in. Even stock i get wheel hop so anything would help

[TadS]

These are only for the 1MZ-FE right? I figure there is a .001% chance of universality, but I have to ask.

[SC V6]

Im in... w\ the horse that I now have, I know what u mean... Only problem is install.. maybe if u put a DIY up.. it would be easier... but im in... im all for better traction off a launch... I don't want to keep buying tires and more expensive ones...

[EricSol]

These are only for the 1MZ-FE right? I figure there is a .001% chance of universality, but I have to ask.

Gen4 1MZ

[EricSol]

I will do some sort of DIY. Its pretty much what you see is what you get. The rear is the hardest and it looks like alot of work but once you get started there's really not that much to it. Its like a dozen bolts and you have the thing out.

On wednesday I'm going over to Energy Suspension to have control arm bushings check fit. They have had them listed but never released so if everything goes ok we will soon be able to purchase them. I suppose all that would be left is the body bushings, hopefully I can come up with something for that.

I was just looking at Energy's new catalog, and they already have a master kit for the '02-03 Civic Si's. I guess we are the only ones who see the performance potential in Camrys, big aftermarket corps sure don't seem to.

Im in... w\ the horse that I now have, I know what u mean... Only problem is install.. maybe if u put a DIY up.. it would be easier... but im in... im all for better traction off a launch... I don't want to keep buying tires and more expensive ones...

[808Camry]

and will they void the powertrain warranty?

yes
stiffer mounts puts more stress on axles and the trans.

eric, can you make them in black (instead of red) to more closely match the OEM mounts?

i don't care though, i'm still interested! but the price sounds steep.

Hmm more stress on the axels and trans? I can see the axels, but why would it put stress on the trans?

[swimshady906]

It seems like this is just a more solid way to connect the supersmooth 1MZ to the rest of the body right? I mean, we have alot of weight to throw around, might as well use it ?? Is that how this helps?

[Fletch]

I give a lot of credit to Eric for investigating and developing this long overdue upgrade. I have seen the price to replace the OE parts and it seems costly...like every other part. There should be a lot of interest, especially for those with superchargers.

My buddy's GTI VR6 aftermarket mount was $25. It would be nice to see a more affordable price for the 1mz.