Wiring up my system

[Peter]

ok, here's what i have:

Alpine CDA-7893 Head Unit
Eclipse 32440 Amplifier
MB Quart RSC 216 Components
Infinity Kappa 693.5i 6x9s

My question is, what size cables should i get? and what length if im putting my amp in my trunk. Amp wiring kit and speaker wire length. And do i need anything else? Im thinkin bout getting monster cable for amp wiring kit, any other suggestions? and for speaker wires, what do you guys suggest? and give me some prices too please.

[pro956]

8 gauge amp kit would do the job
going bigger would be a safer bet
i think i remember that you weren't going to upgrade with a sub or anything later on
i think 8 gauge is rated at 350w rms (but ppl say it's fine with much more power), if you're running all channel of the amp at 4ohm you'll be doing about 340w rms

get around 17ft just to be safe
monster cable is a good way to go, but anything non ghetto will be fine
ie. rockford/lightning audio/pheonix gold wiring kits are all fine.

[Gunman]

hey pete, what amp ratings do they have on this thing, what are you using to push, and will it be in 2 or 4 ohm mode? What speakers did you get for these anyway?

[Peter]

thanks for the replys, and gunman, i listed all i have on the top, and i'll be running em at 4 ohms. and do you guys know if all speakers come with long enough speaker wires?

[Gunman]

ok but on the amp, what size fuse does it have?

[pro956]

thanks for the replys, and gunman, i listed all i have on the top, and i'll be running em at 4 ohms. and do you guys know if all speakers come with long enough speaker wires?

yeah, you'll be fine as long as you're getting the retail packages

[NaptownSolara]

If you have a little extra money, I'd invest in the 4ga kit.

[Blaze]

yea get 4ga or 2 cuz u might wanna upgrade l8r

[Peter]

ok but on the amp, what size fuse does it have?

4 x 20A fuses (80A Total)

yea get 4ga or 2 cuz u might wanna upgrade l8r

I dont think i'll be upgrading for a while. unless i get a sub, but in that case, i'll just get a mono amp to go with it. but that'll be a long time from now. after i'm done w/ this setup, i'll start saving up for some suspension upgrades and rims.

[pro956]

ok but on the amp, what size fuse does it have?

4 x 20A fuses (80A Total)

yea get 4ga or 2 cuz u might wanna upgrade l8r

I dont think i'll be upgrading for a while. unless i get a sub, but in that case, i'll just get a mono amp to go with it. but that'll be a long time from now. after i'm done w/ this setup, i'll start saving up for some suspension upgrades and rims.

go 4 guage for sure

[Gunman]

sorry im getting back so late, sale day and all. I was online looking up the specs on that puppy. very nice amp. a couple of things though, first iasca states a current draw of that size go back at least 16 feet, should have a wire gauge of no less than 2guage. second keep the futrue in mind if you do want to add a mono amp down the road, you will need a larger guage, personally i feel you should go with 0 gauge only for the fact that you got a nice monster there. also keep in mind that your stock solara alt. is only 80 amps. running it stereo at normal gain settings with 4volt signal coming in, power consumption should be about the40 amp range, at time jumping up another t 10 or so. but if you do add the sub amp, you will have a conflict with your stock alt and that amp. Your amp will win and easily. I always set my customers up for the big picture, get your self at least one farad cap, and a good dist. block as well as ground block. that way when you do get the amp it's just a matter of plug and play with everything already there. second, what everyone forgets is kristoff's current law stating that the sum of the input MUST be equal to the sum of the output. So make sure if you use 2 or 0 guage to run power make sure you upgrade you ground wire to 2 or 0, which ever you us at the battery to properly complete the cycle. Youll even notice she starts better and quicker. Eventually youll will burn out the alt.( i know it sucks) so make sure you have money saved up to get a good one from ohio or any other trusted retailer, TO MAKE POWER YOU NEED POWER. no matter how many amps you have you will never produce more than 80 amp worth of power. if you do the mathof 80 x's 14.4( average voltage when the car is on) you get about 1100 watts of power, taking into account of resistance and what portion is lost to heat, with that amp you'll get no more than 500-600 watts peak. rms brings you a little lower. with a high amp alt. you will rock nice loud hard and clean! as far as your head unit, you already got so invest in a good pro line driver of about 8vlots. the reason that amp is so expensive is for that reason of taking such a high signal. might as well use what you paid for. It be like spending 20 grand on a suspension system to only go out and race quarter miles. see what i mean? try to get the most out of that amp, she's a beauty. hopefully this helps or did i just rant again and confuse the f out of ya?

[nkx1]

Damn Gunman, thats a nice novel u wrote. J/k, I'm kinda long winded too. Although I respect your opinion as an installer, I don't think 2 or 0 ga. wire is necessary though for that amp, or even if blaze adds another mono amp. The eclipse 32440 amp is only rated at 85w x 4 rms. In my car, I have 2 Alpine V12's. One is 75 x 4 rms, and the other is 150 x 2 rms. That is an extremely conservative rating; they actually produce much more power as indicated on their certificates. Also, you almost never use the full rms rating of the amp unless you have your volume/gains almost all the way up. Anyway, my point is that I have 4 ga. running from the battery, and the amps get 8 ga. from the distribution block. Of course I have the same wire ga. for ground. I had this same setup in my old car (Integra), and never have/had any problems with amps overheating or getting too hot due to power starvation or anything else. The only adverse affect of my loud music is slight dimming of the headlights at night. But thats due to the alternator's output. Oh, and according to several people I've spoken to with capacitors, the headlights will still dim with one installed. So bottom line is that I think 4 ga. will be more than adequate for that amp, and even in addition to another reasonably sized sub amp. Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

[Gunman]

yeah, the thing is that its apples and oranges, your playing above the rim when you get into amps like the one he wants to install. if it were a rockford550x with 95 x4, yet that has a 50 amp rating. if that were the case yeah 4g, is all you need, but if those big boys 85x4 with 80amps? see a difference? watts are watts, but voltage is what will make you speakers move. i remember the sony es i think it was xm7554, that was 74x4 but ran on 100 amps! that was a thing of beauty. when i installed them, every thing was fine, the ones where the guys took them out and did the istall themselves, all came back shorting and clipping and blown outputs, and some guys used 4g, but it wasnt enough. think of it as two cars with 300hp each, car b has twice the torque as car A, in a quarter mile which car will come across first, its very much the same thing with those amps, you can not just look at the power rating and make your conclusion there. thats all i would hate to see him or anyone go through any nightmare problems.

[Gunman]

like the reply above, about how 8 gauge will deliver about 350watts. , gauge delivers current/voltage,not watts.

[Peter]

holy crap, 2 or 0 gauge wires? wow. never thought i'd have to go that big. 2 will do, but 0 is safe? is that what you're saying? and i dont know much about amps and speakers and stuff, but i guess i'll just have to take my time and do a little more hw before i start the install. couple questions:

"current draw of that size go back at least 16 feet" what does that mean?

"dist. block as well as ground block" what do u mean by that?

"Eventually youll will burn out the alt" why? how can i prevent?

i'll have more later on too. heheh, sorry, im such a dumbass when it comes to systems....but dont worry, i learn quick