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by **Wang2k** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:21 pm

i looked on southbends website and read about the stage 4, its not quite like the spec stage 4. yours still has springs in the clutch disc, which i believe impact the feel.

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by **that1mexguy** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:18 pm

yup i see what you mean, and perhaps the stage 4 for southbend doesnt compare to the stage 4 from Spec, but for the price and feel i think it's worth it. Keep in mind their OFE series is more of a "street" use but they do have some "race" series that of course would cost more. I think their OFE is their stage 4 "street" version which would be less... if i remember correctly, this is rated at over 300+ lbs of torque, which to me is more than enough (i'm running 6psi with all the other mods). But if you are going beyond that then maybe you could look into their other "race" series.

by **Charles@Automotion** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:38 pm

Keep in mind that an un-sprung hub clutch is going to SUCK to drive on the street. There is no give with that setup and its an on or off deal.

I definatly wouldnt recommend an un-sprung to anyone that plans on driving on the street daily, unless you like the idea of reving your car to 3K or higher everytime you go to take off from a redlight.

by **Wang2k** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:51 pm

I have one and it is like a lightswitch...i actually did try to slip it a little bit on accident and it made a bad noise lol

by **Wang2k** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:52 pm

oh and ya dont see any pics of my car at the track do u? lol i tear up the streets!

But your recommendation is good for the meek!

by **toy4x4boy** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:55 pm

that1mexguy wrote:Hey man, if you are still looking for a clutch check out SouthBend too. I got their OFE series stage 4 for $300 plus shipping. I've had it for a few months now and I love it! It's a bit hard to get used to it at 1st but once you get used to it, it's almost a stock feeling. It's very soft and feels like it sticks at the bottom but when shifting, you dont even have to press too much to switch gears. I really recommend it. http://www.dxdracingclutches.com/home.html

I also have a South Bend clutch (first Solara owner to have one that I know of, LOL). I have just the upgrade from stock one but I will recommend them as well. Feels better than stock and grips like crazy too.

by **Zach Master Flex** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:26 am

Charles@Automotion wrote:Keep in mind that an un-sprung hub clutch is going to SUCK to drive on the street. There is no give with that setup and its an on or off deal.

I definatly wouldnt recommend an un-sprung to anyone that plans on driving on the street daily, unless you like the idea of reving your car to 3K or higher everytime you go to take off from a redlight.

Lol, I have an unsprung 6 puck ACT in my Talon and it's not crazy to drive with, just takes a day or two to get used to. You got to bring your takeoff up just a couple hundred more RPM. I like it, I run a lighter pressure plate then my old sprung hub Clutchmasters setup and it grips alot harder. You'll get the occasional chatter but w/e. Heavy pressure plates suck IMO, they're hard on transmissions and the whole clutch hydraulic system, not to mention your leg. I think an unsprung 6 puck is the way to go, unless you wanna throw down on the HKS twin disk, my friend had one of those in his All Track and it was the sh1ot. Clutch pedal was just like stock, but once you stepped off it quick it gripped like all hell! Though it'll cost you close to 2 grand I think.

by **Fletch** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:52 am

This is just going by memory, but overall, members have been happier with SPEC. My stage 3 coupled to the LW flywheel was great. From a driveability standpoint, it took a little more concentration to creep and the friction point window is smaller than stock. I loved the feel though, others that were not used to it stalled it usually.

I think one of the guys with big power burned up a stage 3, but he dragged also.

Don't skimp, get the flywheel also, now is the time to do it. You will be in good shape with the LSD, clutch and FW.

by **QuickSEV6** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:20 am

Fletch wrote:This is just going by memory, but overall, members have been happier with SPEC. My stage 3 coupled to the LW flywheel was great. From a driveability standpoint, it took a little more concentration to creep and the friction point window is smaller than stock. I loved the feel though, others that were not used to it stalled it usually.

I think one of the guys with big power burned up a stage 3, but he dragged also.

Don't skimp, get the flywheel also, now is the time to do it. You will be in good shape with the LSD, clutch and FW.

Great! Thanks. One silly question. What is the purpose of a light weight flywheel? I know less weight is good, but do you really notice a lighter flywheel when you hit the gas? Is it that big of a deal for the price? Just asking.

by **Wang2k** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:57 am

the flywheel makes a difference. I dont know from experience but i just know that any weight savings on the reciprocating mass of an engine will show itself by being more free revving and such. I wanted one but im going to wait till i install an lsd to put one in.

And the last thing ill say about a clutch(i know i always have something to say about them). since i put that solid hub 6 puck in, noone has driven my car. A few people have tried, but they stall it like 4 times and are like never mind you just drive. its really a good thing because less slip=less wear.

by **Fletch** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:45 am

Correction, I've heard better feedback about SPEC than Clutchmasters for our application, can't speak about SB or the others.

The lightweight flywheel is a nice addition as long as you are already have the transaxle separated from the engine. It's hard to quantify how much power it adds because it really doesn't add any power, I guess it just reduces some of the losses. I think everybody that has had one installed on the 1mz would agree that it was a good decision. It helps you rev throught the RPM band a little quicker. Seat of your pants dyno...yes, the car seemed a little quicker, empasize a little. They are salty though, $350 - $400 I think.

by **that1mexguy** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:59 am

Correct, SPEC is better known by most of the people here and I had never heard of SB until I was researching around for a new clutch, but when I was doing my research I did see a few reviews by some Supra guys and to me that was good enough. 2 of us in here have it and we are very pleased, oh and because it's not widely known i was able to get a small discount on it so that is what I would recommend you guys to do, call the place and negotiate! LOL

by **Zach Master Flex** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:00 am

Does anyone rock the TRD clutch?

by **Wang2k** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:01 pm

the place i got my spec from came off the price 30 bucks because i told him i found one locally for that price, and that i was gonna go with it unless he could match it. hope he doesnt see this...cuz there was no local place :evilbat:

by **Wang2k** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:02 pm

oh and why do all the solara clutch kits come with apilot bearing? there is not one one our app but i still got one(twice) and i see one in the pic up there. does the 3sgte use it or something and they just throw it in there? anyone else ever wondered that?

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