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Modifying Stock Exhaust, Need help on sizing

Modifying Stock Exhaust, Need help on sizing

Postby Solorange » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:07 am

I was wondering if any of you know the stock exhaust pipe size. I know the standards for black iron pipe cause I use it all the time, but I dont know the lingo for car exhaust piping. Like if the measurement is taken from the ID of the pipe or the OD to know what size pipe you have. What Im doing is removing the stock secondary muffler and replacing it with this glass pack. Im trying to figure out what size glass pack I need to order. And again I dont know if the the tubing on the glass pack goes inside or outside the stock piping. Here is link to the glass pack. Can any of you help me figure out what size I need to order. They come in 2'', 2.25'', 2.5''. Im guessing its one of the two smaller sizes.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Flowtech ... 0101801381

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Postby Midias » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:16 am

I am not sure the size but I think 2.5 OD not ID (the smaller of the 2) fits nicely over stock piping.


BTW the 2.5 resonator is 2.5 ID so it is too large for stock pipe I would prob go for the 2.25 but if it is wrong don't get angry at me
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Postby Chhem87 » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:51 am

I'm pretty sure its 2.5. That was the size of the pipe of my custom exhaust i got
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Postby Midias » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:54 am

The custom exhaust I hand built was 2.5 OD and was bigger than my stock 01 V6 5 speed pipe
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Postby Chhem87 » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:06 pm

well if you hand built your exhaust then i guess you're right, i paid someone to build mines. Maybe i heard wrong
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Postby lilm » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:31 pm

i think its 2.5 as well....but why glass pack straight pipe ftw
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Postby Midias » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:41 pm

lilm111 wrote:i think its 2.5 as well....but why glass pack straight pipe ftw


It is not 2.5 I know I was able to slip a 2.5 OD pipe over the stock exhaust.
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Postby Solorange » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:11 pm

The way you guys are typing this, its confusing me. Midias - what I understand you are saying that the 2.5in glass pack will fit perfectly over a stock pipe but go for a smaller size (2.25)? Can you clearify this.

Then Chhem87 from what I understand you are telling me is that you got a custom exhaust bent which was 2.5in and your telling me that stock is 2.5in. Then if thats the case what is the point of getting a custom exhaust made if you could just use what you already have?

Im not ranting at you guys, Im just confused cause your either not giving me enough info or your sentences are too choppy, Thanks for the help though.

And what is the car lingo for exhaust sizing? For example if someone goes to an exhaust shop and says i want to upgrade my exhaust by putting on this type of muffler with this type of highflow cat, all with 2.5in piping. Does it mean that the ID is 2.5 or the OD?
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Postby Midias » Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:08 pm

As far as I know all exhaust pipe is OD and all slipons IE your resonator, adapters and mufflers are ID so they slip over the pipe. NOW the OD of the stock exhaust is the ID of 2.5 OD pipe in other words it is smaller than exhaust pipe as shown in this pic. If this does not explain it stop all working on cars now and buy a metro. And if you really want to get anal this is with thick wall real exhaust pipe from flow master not some thin wall crap so the wall is prob near 1/8 or about 3/32.

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Postby lilm » Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:34 pm

Midias wrote:
lilm111 wrote:i think its 2.5 as well....but why glass pack straight pipe ftw


It is not 2.5 I know I was able to slip a 2.5 OD pipe over the stock exhaust.

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Postby Midias » Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:40 pm

lilm111 wrote:
Midias wrote:
lilm111 wrote:i think its 2.5 as well....but why glass pack straight pipe ftw


It is not 2.5 I know I was able to slip a 2.5 OD pipe over the stock exhaust.

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2.5 is the diameter of the pipe in inches which is 1/12 of a foot or 2.54 centimeters. OD is outer diameter like on a circle and is the distance across the pipe from the outside of the pipe edge. ID is inner diameter the distance to from inner edge to inner edge. If you are still confused refer to the above illustration.

AS for the pic all distances are the same on each pipe as labeled and everything can be related back to the 2.5 OD pipe.
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Postby Solorange » Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:02 pm

Thanks Midias! And there was no need to get mad at me for asking you to clearify what you were saying the first time. It just came off very confusing to me because I am not familar with the proper lingo for car exhaust tubing. Like I said before I knew that pipe size refers the the ID of the pipe and I knew that sizes for different applications can also refer to the OD instead of the ID. I just never knew what if the size for cars was OD or ID. I even called several car places and none of them knew either. They just order the correct part numbers they say.

Anyway I did some research before I came back on here and saw your chart , which helps. Im just putting this info out here for the rest of you guys who dont know. I found out that pipe sizes always refers to the ID and tubing which is what cars have refers to the OD.

Now I measured the OEM tubing on my car with some digital calipers and it came out to 2.1in for the OD meaning that our cars come stock with 2" exhaust.

As far as the resonator fittings go, i wasnt sure if I got a 2" size if that meant it was going be the exact size and the stock pipe or if I would have to buy the next size up (aka 2.25) so that it would fit over it. I also found out Like Midias said on all the accessories (refering to mufflers, resonators, etc) they flare out to fit over the stock tubing so that means I have to order the 2".

And Midias: I was kindof offended by the Metro comment, just because as a kid Ive always been into cars, but had a dad who is an accountant and only sees cars as a money pit. They just get you from point A to B he says. And cause of that in highschool he would always prevent me from modifing my cars because it was a waste of money. So he has always driven buicks and whenever it breaks he pays to have it fixed. He has no interest in fixing cars nor does he know how to work on them. So I on the other hand have taught myself everything I know about cars. I will admit I have a lot to learn yet, but I also do know a lot and understand things really well. I just take a lot of pride in knowing that I have taken it on my own to teach myself all these things about working on cars and also learning from others like yourself. Funny thing is, now my dad buys me tools for my birthday and such and now I can fix his cars which saves him more money. So thank you for helping me learn about exhaust sizes Midias. I learned that from you! No hard feelings

On a side note I found this article and thought it was very interesting because it was very informative about the complete exhaust system. Although I will say some things this author says about turbos I disagree with.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Flowtech ... 0101801381
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Postby Midias » Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:15 pm

I thought I would just answer 1 more question before you get the glass pack and ask. When you get it and look inside you will notice one side has raised ports when exhaust gas can go in and get into the packing. Face this toward the engine for less noise and away toward the muffler for more sound. I personally have mine facing the engine. It may be hard to picture now but when you get it you will see.
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Postby Solorange » Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:24 pm

Got it! Thanks for the tip

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Postby Solorange » Thu May 03, 2007 4:56 pm

Got it today but unfortunatly the ends are not flared out to go over my piping. So does anybody know if an exhaust shop can flare them out for me? I will check tommorrow but I was just wondering if anybody knew already. Thanks
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