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Shifting from 3rd (@redline) to 2nd

Shifting from 3rd (@redline) to 2nd

Postby all_red » Thu Dec 04, 2003 11:29 pm

Yea its true. I was trying to shift fast but missed 4th and got into second. The car just continued going as it was in neutral.
Was that kinda safty feature? coz then i shifted to 4th and it was fine. I also stopped and shifted from 1st up to 5th and everything was fine.
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Postby Mole » Fri Dec 05, 2003 12:08 am

were you in gear? did you engage the clutch? did your rpm's jump?
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Postby kubi » Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:47 am

I don't know why it would do that unless you didn't make it all the way in to second. If you went from redline in 3rd down to second the car should have jerked and slowed down.
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Postby cdssolara » Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:27 am

It sounds like the rev limiter kicked in. If you go past redline, it will make the car feel like you just pushed in the clutch or shifted into neutral. When you downshifted at redline, you would have increased the rpms so much that you caused this "engine self-preservation" function to occur.
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Postby impactX » Fri Dec 05, 2003 9:54 am

Don't think a revlimiter can kick in when you downshift. It's only useful when you are accelerating and stay in the same gear.

He probably just didn't engage the clutch. He would probably be at like 7k RPM if he did engage the clutch.
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Postby Jai_Jai_Binks » Fri Dec 05, 2003 9:59 am

Maybe the gear didn't engage (safety feature). I know celica gt-s suffered a lot cus' of misshifts. but thats the first i've heard for the solara???

Anyhow, on our OLD volvo, if you downshifted on a previous higgh gear towards redline, the grear would pop out of its slot into neutral on its own!...but then again...i'm assuming the same happened here...only without the geat sticking out to the neutral position!
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Postby TRD MCV20L » Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:07 am

whatever happned it was good. everything seemed to be okay and hopefully it was just a safety feature :D
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Postby Hsakuragi » Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:21 am

yes, we shouldn't need to know these great hidden feature :)
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Re: Shifting from 3rd (@redline) to 2nd

Postby B_Master_Flash » Fri Dec 05, 2003 5:02 pm

all_red wrote:Yea its true. I was trying to shift fast but missed 4th and got into second. The car just continued going as it was in neutral.
Was that kinda safty feature? coz then i shifted to 4th and it was fine. I also stopped and shifted from 1st up to 5th and everything was fine.


Did it ACTUALLY go all the way into second, with our gearbox, you would have had to really cram it to get in second @ 90 mph. If so, did you relase the clutch? slowly or did you just pop it? Did the rpm's climb like the gear was engaged or did the gear not engage at all, making it feel like it was in neutral the entire time you were letting the clutch out? Like jhbhatia said, a friend of mine put his civic in reverse while going forward and released the clutch and the thing just popped out into neutral, is that what happened? Also, our gear box makes it hard to put it in a gear that doesn't match your current RPM/speed. I.E. if you are going 50 and try to put it in first or reverse or someting, you will have to push really hard, and when it finally goes in it will make a horrible grinding feeling/sound which would alert you that something is wrong.

From what you described, I think you put the gear shifter into the slot for second but didn't actually get it all the way into gear. Then when you released the clutch, it felt like it was in neutral because it never actually was in gear.
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Postby all_red » Fri Dec 05, 2003 9:02 pm

If i missed 2nd and released the cluck while the shifter was in neutral I wouldn't be surprised. OK, I was at that pay toll and was trying to practise as if i was in the drag so as soon as that green light came one i took off... i shifted from third to "fourth" so fast that i didn't feel it went into second... but the car just felt as if it was in neutral so i looked at the shifter and it was in second and i shifted from second to fouth... I know it was in second when i released the cluch... so unless its a safety feature.. I don't know what happened...
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Postby cdssolara » Sat Dec 06, 2003 1:18 am

These guys are right about the difficulty of downshifting into 2nd gear at too high of a speed. It's pretty difficult, and you really have to put some effort into it. I would also think that just inadvertantly slipping it into 2nd gear when you were redlining in 3rd would almost be impossible. Maybe you could test it, without being at redline of course.
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Postby all_red » Sat Dec 06, 2003 1:22 am

Yea I know its hard to downshif when your in high rpm, but I'm sure I did it. You know whenever you race you try to shift as fast as you can. SO anyways, Nah I don't wanna try that again, well I might, but I'm sure you know the feeling you'd get if you thought you had to fix your tranny :x
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Postby Whatever » Sat Dec 06, 2003 10:19 am

oh tell me about it, I shift my auto shift into R while driving 50+mph, and my friend behind me was like did you shift into R cuz i saw your backing lights light up. :o
PS: if you wanna try this make sure you don't hit the break or... it's gonna go into reverse and I don't know what's gonna happen...
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Postby hari-bhari » Sat Dec 06, 2003 1:21 pm

i think the solara does have some sort of safety feature where it disengages the gear. a while back i was driving through a parking lot, about 15-20 mph and accidentally put the car into reverse instead of neutral while i was moving. the car jerked and instantly shut off. the power steering and everything went dead. i freaked out, but i pulled to the side, turned it off and back on, and it was just fine. so the computer knew somethin was wrong and turned the car off to save the tranny.
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